Peter_Puget Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 I thought I'd throw this into the mix. PP Quote
lummox Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 consider that as of Friday, Nov. 7, 388 U.S. service members have died since the beginning of military operations in Iraq, according to the Department of Defense. Quote
Al_Pine Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 Lummox, That is a much smaller percent of the total # of people in the US Armed Services than 87 billion dollars is of the total US Budget for 2003. Quote
Ursa_Eagle Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 PP, are you crying about 16 Million when we're wasting 87 billion in Iraq? Quote
Peter_Puget Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 I am crying about politicians making million for nothing except their contacts after they leave office! By the same goes for the military too! It is simply buying a ploitician with an IOU! Fight the power! Quote
erik Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Peter_Puget said: I am crying about politicians making million for nothing except their contacts after they leave office! By the same goes for the military too! It is simply buying a ploitician with an IOU! Fight the power! righto pete!!! but why label this as a liberal only issue. when we all know that both sides of the fence are equally fucked. Quote
hakioawa Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 PP, You are really scraping at the bottom of the barell. Come on I know you can do beter than that. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 I was merely bringin it up in a Clinton referecne now because those darn lefties keep bringing up Clinton. Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 erik said: Peter_Puget said: I am crying about politicians making million for nothing except their contacts after they leave office! By the same goes for the military too! It is simply buying a ploitician with an IOU! Fight the power! righto pete!!! but why label this as a liberal only issue. when we all know that both sides of the fence are equally fucked. dittoe! Quote
allthumbs Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 What about the Libertarian Party? Where do these fuckers fall in the scheme of things? Quote
Ursa_Eagle Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 scrambler said: that's disturbing! Quote
Peter_Puget Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 A man with no invesment banking experience gets $3,103 per hour on his first job with an investment banker! Are you so blind that you cannot see!?!?!?! Quote
Al_Pine Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 erik said: ... when we all know that both sides of the fence are equally fucked. Not in terms of body count. Quote
Jim Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 No doubt here - the revolving door of pols/consultants is bad - but the republicans are better at the big money games, meaning defense contractors. Look at the string of connections among the defense department - American Enterprise Institute - and the current admin. That said, the repubs are not alone. There is a lot of back-slapping across the aisle. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 So true Lyndon Johnson is far and away in the lead! Quote
mattp Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Peter- Every time one of us evil liberals talks about what crooks we have in the White House, we are told "the dems are just as bad." You may be right about that, and I'd have to agree that the Democratic politicos are a cynnical and self-serving bunch as well - though I think Bush and Co. have taken it to a whole new height of unabashed looting. However, the title of your thread "since you lefties keep bringing up Clinton?????" Isn't it the right wing commentators and right-of-center politicians who keep harping on how all of our current problems are Clinton's fault and isn't Hillary a bitch and so on? I don't think it is the "lefties" who keep bringing up Clinton. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 See my post regarding the NYT editorial! Quote
Al_Pine Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Oops and to pick a nit or two, wouldn't Harry Truman be pretty much all time body-count prez in terms of all human beings, and probably Abraham Lincoln for most American lives? But this is all moot since these facts are tangential to the topic of justifying the Bush administration evils via comparison to Slick Willy. Unless of course tangential was the goal, which it perhaps appears to be with the ref to Johnson. Quote
Peter_Puget Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 Al_Pine said: Oops and to pick a nit or two, wouldn't Harry Truman be pretty much all time body-count prez in terms of all human beings, and probably Abraham Lincoln for most American lives? But this is all moot since these facts are tangential to the topic of justifying the Bush administration evils via comparison to Slick Willy. Unless of course tangential was the goal, which it perhaps appears to be with the ref to Johnson. Whoa Nelly! You should be on TV. WHo was justifying the evils of GWB not me. Free your mind there Al See facts not conspiracies. Although it is comforting to believe that the world is in the the control of the iron fist of some hidden oligarchy. It is not. Beside such beliefs are one step away from "the Jews control the world." See the head of Malaysia recent comments regarding this. PP Quote
Al_Pine Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Whoa nelly! It's now conspiracy theory to allege that the Bush administration is responsible for us invading Iraq! Quote
mattp Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Serious Nelly! It is NUTS to think that the defense contractors or the energy industry or anybody from Halliburton had anything to do with all of this, either. Only a true conspiracy theory freak would think our government officials would make decisions and award lucrative contracts that would benefit their friends and former employers. Quote
erik Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 warning pointless post from crapped ahead! Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 erik said: warning pointless post from crapped ahead! as soon as he gets done rubbing one out to his dave graham poster though... we prolly got 20 seconds at least. Quote
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