catbirdseat Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 It has been done. Ask Toast. He met the man. Â The question is why would you want to unless you are JoshK or Norman_Clyde? Quote
Rodchester Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 The real question is: What the OFFICIAL time? Â In order to find out, go to www.speedclimbing.com Quote
Rodchester Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 or try  www.speedclimbing.org  Looks like Dan is not as alone as he seems to think that he is.  Quote
blue_morph Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 The real question is WHY would you want to? Quote
Mtguide Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 blue_morph said: The real question is WHY would you want to? Â Seems to me the real value of pushing it for speed is broadening and deepening your own knowledege of your limits and capabilities--something that can come in mighty handy at a time you're faced with the harsh and unexpected.You never know what you can do till you try--or until you have to. ----------------------------------- "Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once." Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 Mtguide said: blue_morph said: The real question is WHY would you want to? Â Seems to me the real value of pushing it for speed is broadening and deepening your own knowledege of your limits and capabilities--something that can come in mighty handy at a time you're faced with the harsh and unexpected.You never know what you can do till you try--or until you have to. ----------------------------------- "Time is nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once." Quote
cracked Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 It's all about chestbeating rights...duh. Quote
scott_harpell Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 cracked said: It's all about chestbeating rights...duh. Â whatever it is a good way to find out if you are up for the bigger shit where there isn't a big weather window or moving fast is totally fucking necessary because of obvective hazards or something... Quote
iain Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 I can see the feeling of satisfaction one would get from doing that in a day. Â Also there is much less bushwacking than any of the guides suggest. It is all on trail until you drop towards the impasse...as long as you know where the trail is... Quote
klenke Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 I think Cracked's point was valid. If you want to speed climb for your own experimentation, then so be it. If you feel like telling us what you've learned about yourself, then it more often than not comes across as chestbeating. Quote
Bug Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 I like to take long day trips just for the shear pleasure of seeing all that terrain. And chest beat or not, I like to read about other people's trips. Most TR's that sound like chest beaters are just not expert writers. It is difficult to write about a difficult trip that includes a serious accomplishment without sounding like a total thumper. Trip on dude. Tell us how it went. Just don't tell us it took less than four hours. Quote
JoshK Posted November 7, 2003 Author Posted November 7, 2003 OK, I should have clarified. I was wondering if anybody *here* had done it, or could share personal experience. I assumed it had been done, and I certainly didn't think I was going to go out and try to be the first person to do it in a day and chest beat about it. Â Basically I am interested in doing the mountian, but can't spare 5, or even 3 days right now. Doing it in 2 seems dumb, because I think the lighter weight of doing it in 1 day would more than make up for just a single extra day. Quote
David_Parker Posted November 8, 2003 Posted November 8, 2003 I could see doing it in a single push but it might be more than 24 hours. I'd wait for summer when the days are longest. Also, unless you've been in before, you'll loose time routefinding. Quote
Norman_Clyde Posted November 8, 2003 Posted November 8, 2003 I failed to summit and took 3 days. Does that count as an almost? It's true that there are no big obstacles until you get to Perfect Pass, just a lot of trail miles and a fair amount of elevation gain, loss, gain. But the pass is so annoying, and slow, and unpleasant that it's a real monkeywrench in the works. At least it was in July. However, earlier in the season, if instead of struggling up 45 degree brush slopes one could proceed directly up firm snow, it would be a LOT more fun, and maybe realistic to do in 24 hours, if someone really wanted to. I haven't explored the impasse myself, so I can't really comment on that portion. I heard it's a little exposed if you're wearing a full pack. One more time saver, maybe, if you're traveling light. Quote
Pencil_Pusher Posted November 13, 2003 Posted November 13, 2003 Challenger in a day?! Are you crazy? Sounds schweet and I gather I'm not the only one that thinks so... Quote
iain Posted November 13, 2003 Posted November 13, 2003 the last 24 hour guy was there in july. the impasse is exposed but soloable if you found the right spot. I would not want to have to cross it if it was wet. I will say I was glad to have a rope where we crossed, not for the difficult climbing, but the chossy nature of the downclimbing where we wound up. Quote
chelle Posted November 13, 2003 Posted November 13, 2003 klenke said: I think Cracked's point was valid. If you want to speed climb for your own experimentation, then so be it. If you feel like telling us what you've learned about yourself, then it more often than not comes across as chestbeating. Â Why does this crowd seem to think that someone sharing their trip and what they learned is cheastbeating? No wonder few people want to put their trip reports on this board. I for one think it is cool to hear what people learned and how they challenged their own limits. That's one of the reasons I read mountaineering books periodically. It would be so incredibly boring to just get the facts about distance, elevation gain, grade, and time. Kinda like reading a guidebook. Come on people, what are you so bothered about? Quote
Dustin_B Posted November 13, 2003 Posted November 13, 2003 cracked said: It's all about chestbeating rights...duh. Â The guy we (I was with Toast) passed in July on Challenger who did it in a day didn't post a TR and didn't chestbeat, at least not on cc.com so I'm thinking that was not his justification for doing it in a day. Quote
catbirdseat Posted November 13, 2003 Posted November 13, 2003 ehmmic said: klenke said: I think Cracked's point was valid. If you want to speed climb for your own experimentation, then so be it. If you feel like telling us what you've learned about yourself, then it more often than not comes across as chestbeating. Â Why does this crowd seem to think that someone sharing their trip and what they learned is cheastbeating? No wonder few people want to put their trip reports on this board. I for one think it is cool to hear what people learned and how they challenged their own limits. That's one of the reasons I read mountaineering books periodically. It would be so incredibly boring to just get the facts about distance, elevation gain, grade, and time. Kinda like reading a guidebook. Come on people, what are you so bothered about? I agree with ehmic. Posting a trip report is not in and of itself chestbeating. It is how you write the report that counts. The number of trip reports have fallen way off and I regard them as the most important aspect of this site. Quote
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