Bitch and Moan.......

[jon]

somewhere else. You have a problem with it, send me an email. Wanna talk shit, show up to Pub Club and say it to my face. Me and few other people who are trying to do something good here are tired of your spew. If you don't understand by now, you probably won't, so get lost.

[j_b]

sorry if i misunderstood the meaning of your post.

Edited September 23, 2003 by j_b

[Sphinx]

And jon kills spray for another day.

[jon]

No I'm not killing spray. We just want people to be slightly more respectful of others and try to keep their spray in the proper areas.

[Sphinx]

jon said:

No I'm not killing spray. We just want people to be slightly more respectful of others and try to keep their spray in the proper areas.

I do my very best to keep my spray in Spray. Just for you.

[j_b]

keeping spray in spray is good but not enough: the abusive language has to stop or this place could become even more confrontational than it is.

[Dru]

j_b said:

keeping spray in spray is good but not enough: the abusive language has to stop or this place could become even more confrontational than it is.

 

you could always lead by example by posting some new threads about actual climbing or something, instead of global warming or the mideast

[Sphinx]

Dru said:

j_b said:

keeping spray in spray is good but not enough: the abusive language has to stop or this place could become even more confrontational than it is.

 

you could always lead by example by posting some new threads about actual climbing or something, instead of global warming or the mideast

Touche, dipshit.

[Cpt.Caveman]

Dru said:

j_b said:

keeping spray in spray is good but not enough: the abusive language has to stop or this place could become even more confrontational than it is.

 

you could always lead by example by posting some new threads about actual climbing or something, instead of global warming or the mideast

 

You can say that again and again and again and well you get the idea.

[Scott_J]

Dru said:

j_b said:

keeping spray in spray is good but not enough: the abusive language has to stop or this place could become even more confrontational than it is.

 

you could always lead by example by posting some new threads about actual climbing or something, instead of global warming or the mideast

 

Oh, come now Dru. What fun would spray be without the added vocalization of various subject. Shit I get tired of climbing, climbing, climbing...People who have just one interest are boring as hell.

[j_b]

Dru said:

j_b said:

keeping spray in spray is good but not enough: the abusive language has to stop or this place could become even more confrontational than it is.

 

you could always lead by example by posting some new threads about actual climbing or something, instead of global warming or the mideast

 

i do post about climbing, certainly not as often as about other issues. however, if the right wingers stop spewing thier senseless, abusive garbage, i'll stop posting my sensical, witty political rejoiners. it is odd how some posters can post anything they want and it somehow escapes notice .... no doubt because we are immersed in it to the gills.

 

and i don't see what my posting about global warming (however, you are mistaken i don't say much about the mideast except for one thread way back when mtngoat wanted to kill arabs or something to that effect), has anything to do with offensive spew. so i don't see how it relates to leading by example in this respect. trask, cavey, gregw, adams, sissu, vegetablebelay, robbob, figgure8 (sp) and their other avatars (shit, i did not know there were this many right wing nuts who climbed, or is it that this site has attracted the weirdest personalities in the nw) started posting offensive stuff about murdering 'ragheads' with their favorite weapons long before i reacted to it. so view it as a case of i did not start, they did. and it can only be assumed that some of us should at least be able to present an alternative perspective to very unreasonable discourse.

 

and i certainly keep spray in spray. you, in turn, do not. i try to lead by example in terms of writing meaningful posts and being respectful of others when they are respectful of me. i certainly appreciate a fraction of your posts but the senseless-would-be-witty one liners are just too much (or at least too much of it) and even though i know we are pretty close in sensibilities i feel that your attitude condones disrespect and antagonism on the part of the worst abusers on this board. perhaps you should think about that?

[Cpt.Caveman]

however, if the right wingers stop spewing thier senseless, abusive garbage,

 

A very clever troll.

[sk]

Cpt.Caveman said:

however, if the right wingers stop spewing thier senseless, abusive garbage,

 

A very clever troll.

LOL

[j_b]

Cpt.Caveman said:

however, if the right wingers stop spewing thier senseless, abusive garbage,

 

A very clever troll.

 

absolutely not caveman. call to murder or disrespect of other races, religious groups, sex, etc ... is senseless, abusive garbage. some posters used to that all day long in one form or another. i am grateful you don't dabble in it anymore, thank you. i just wish you started posting more pics again.

[Sphinx]

Edited September 23, 2003 by Sphinx

[RobBob]

Hey j_b, can I come over and watch All In The Family reruns with you? Your relaxed sense of humor is catching.

[j_b]

RobBob said:

Hey j_b, can I come over and watch All In The Family reruns with you? Your relaxed sense of humor is catching.

 

the fact that you find abusive banter humorous speaks volume about you, more than it does about my perceived sense of humor.

[Dru]

i heard the moderators have a secret forum where they bitch and moan about the rest of us, but since we can't see it, they pretend to be complaint free.

 

j_b you are just mad i included you with my list of dwayner and mtn_goat in examples of people so ideologically committed your views will never change. why should they, after all, you all KNOW you are correct, huh it must be good to feel so superior to the rest of us poor confused fools.

 

and yet.... waitaminnit here.... you and mtn_goat disagree about everything and yet you are both, always right! how can this be? oh man you are reawakening my hangover

[RobBob]

I'm lovin' life, I'm usually for the underdog, and yes I can laugh about the differences in people without meaning it as a slam on them. If that's bad, fuck it. I like me!

[j_b]

Dru said:

i heard the moderators have a secret forum where they bitch and moan about the rest of us, but since we can't see it, they pretend to be complaint free.

 

j_b you are just mad i included you with my list of dwayner and mtn_goat in examples of people so ideologically committed your views will never change. why should they, after all, you all KNOW you are correct, huh it must be good to feel so superior to the rest of us poor confused fools.

 

and yet.... waitaminnit here.... you and mtn_goat disagree about everything and yet you are both, always right! how can this be? oh man you are reawakening my hangover

 

stay on topic. personal attacks on what you perceive me to be do not add anything to this discussion.

[Sphinx]

I had to edit my last 'caustic' post. Maybe I'll have Sphinx euthanized since he is so mean and caustic.

[Cpt.Caveman]

j_b said:

Dru said:

i heard the moderators have a secret forum where they bitch and moan about the rest of us, but since we can't see it, they pretend to be complaint free.

 

j_b you are just mad i included you with my list of dwayner and mtn_goat in examples of people so ideologically committed your views will never change. why should they, after all, you all KNOW you are correct, huh it must be good to feel so superior to the rest of us poor confused fools.

 

and yet.... waitaminnit here.... you and mtn_goat disagree about everything and yet you are both, always right! how can this be? oh man you are reawakening my hangover

 

stay on topic

 

I didn't know there was a topic really... Dru has some way humorous points though...

[RobBob]

waitaminnit here.... you and mtn_goat disagree about everything and yet you are both, always right!

 

dru, haven't you figured out that it's the work of one poor twisted soul?

[Dru]

j_b said:

Dru said:

i heard the moderators have a secret forum where they bitch and moan about the rest of us, but since we can't see it, they pretend to be complaint free.

 

j_b you are just mad i included you with my list of dwayner and mtn_goat in examples of people so ideologically committed your views will never change. why should they, after all, you all KNOW you are correct, huh it must be good to feel so superior to the rest of us poor confused fools.

 

and yet.... waitaminnit here.... you and mtn_goat disagree about everything and yet you are both, always right! how can this be? oh man you are reawakening my hangover

 

stay on topic. personal attacks on what you perceive me to be do not add anything to this discussion.

 

why don't you complain to jon about the use of the term "bitch", derogatory to women, in this thread's title

[DrPhil]

Fighting Fair

 

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Take it private and keep it private. Fighting in front of your children is nothing short of child abuse. It can and will scar them emotionally — all because you don't have the self-control to contain yourself until you can talk privately.

 

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