allthumbs Posted September 8, 2003 Author Share Posted September 8, 2003 mr.radon said: We'd have a whole lot less gun crime if a law was passed that put any criminal behind bars for life if they used a gun in the commision of a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 During the same period there were about 21,000 murders. Who is full of crap? Â that is exactly why i have a gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 the thing is CBS i doubt that many of these people ahve gone through the proper gun ownership courses or have been taught proper handling by their fathers. if there were no guns in the hands of theives, murderers and other criminals, i would not own one. the fact remains. criminals WILL have guns. i would like to see a survey on how many of those guns were used by the actual owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.radon Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 catbirdseat: You're throwing criminals into your statistics? We're talking about responsible gun owners, not outlaws. Thats why there are so few people getting charged with a crime when they defend themselves with a firearm, they are resposible. I bet most of the criminals already had felony convictions and weren't supposed to have a gun anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catbirdseat Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 I would agree with you that few persons forced to use a gun for defense in their own home are charged. Outside of the home the statistics are different. Â I should point out that the article I cited has many statistics friendly to your point if view, if you should happen to read it. There is the one for example that in England more burglaries occur in occupied homes because people aren't allowed to have guns there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 ah even the bobbies don't carry guns in jolly olde England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 trask said: mr.radon said: We'd have a whole lot less gun crime if a law was passed that put any criminal behind bars for life if they used a gun in the commision of a crime. Â Â you mean just like the deterrent effect all your other laws have produced, namely a violent crime rate much higher than anywhere else in the Western world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Led_Hed Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 It makes me sick to hear someone argue that if the law-abiding public had zero access to firearms we would be safer and better off. Who's worried about being shot by law-abiding armed home-owners? Answer: Burglars and other morons who are willing to gamble with their own lives and the lives of those behind a closed locked door. Every home intruder armed or not assumes a huge risk by entering anothers living space univited and places his/her potential victim in a position where it would probably be stupid (unless the burglar fled immediately after being warned) not to shoot the intruder. Â There's a lot of home invasions happening in the Seattle area as of recently. I'm dissapointed that the papers havn't covered it a little better. Â armed morons... legal guns in legal hands... Â Dru, What a retarded coment man. Come on. Violence is a huge subject, and we live in a huge country, far more populated than Canada. Blaming the whole issue on one factor is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EWolfe Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 mr.radon said: We'd have a whole lot less gun crime if a law was passed that put any criminal behind bars for life if they used a gun in the commision of a crime. Good idea about increased penalty for gun use in a crime , but wouldn't that just further gum up our already overcrowded jails  Maybe we could ship 'em to Canada Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrambler Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Article [iI.] Amendments to the US Constitution  What are you gonna do, when the the highest court of the land with the blessing of a future Republican administration interprets Article II of the Constitution to refer to the possession of guns as a right granted to state militas (National Guard) only? All this in the name of homeland security after a terrorist guns down people in a public place. Can't happen? Too many law-abiding gun owners for this to occur? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted September 8, 2003 Author Share Posted September 8, 2003 Led_Hed said: Dru, What a retarded comment man. Come on. Violence is a huge subject, and we live in a huge country, far more populated than Canada. Blaming the whole issue on one factor is ridiculous. This is a typical response from Dru. We humor him, but never give his ideas any credence. Nice post Led Hed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 Led Hed = Greg W Â Â Were the Freemen a well-regulated militia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 i dont think baby jesus would shoot anyone!?!?! shouldnt we all live our lives in a humble and cheery way? Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_J Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 As a life member of the NRA all I can say to Trask is yeeeeeeeeeeeee hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. and fuck you to the anti gunners. hahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 erik said: i dont think baby jesus would shoot anyone!?!?! shouldnt we all live our lives in a humble and cheery way? Â Â i hope you live like jesus did when he was 35. i would pay money to see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobBob Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 Here's a question for those of us who enjoy guns: What's the best gun you've owned? Â I'll go first: My pet shotgun is a Browning 2-shot auto that loads from the left, which is nice since I'm lefthanded/eyed. My pet rifle is a Browning 243 varmit gun, perfect for picking off snaffles at medium distances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 glizzock- high capacity. got is as a gift when i turned 21. best present yet. the funny thing is, erik has a hand gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted September 8, 2003 Author Share Posted September 8, 2003 RPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adventuregal Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 I don't enjoy guns, but did own one for a bit... Anschutz 22caliber Biathlon rifle. It was badass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetablebelay Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 My favorite of the month is my S & W model 296. It's a airweight 5-shot .44 special. A little kick, but fun as hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted September 8, 2003 Author Share Posted September 8, 2003 adventuregal said: I enjoy guns... Anschutz 22caliber Biathlon rifle. It is badass. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 trask said: adventuregal said: I enjoy guns... Anschutz 22caliber Biathlon rifle. It is badass. Â Â that's the kinda girl aaaaahm gonna marry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted September 8, 2003 Author Share Posted September 8, 2003 babnik said: trask said: adventuregal said: I enjoy guns... Anschutz 22caliber Biathlon rifle. It is badass. Â Â that's the kinda girl aaaaahm gonna marry! Yeah right, I can just see you two now..... Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babnik Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 how did you get my H.S. yearbook!?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_J Posted September 8, 2003 Share Posted September 8, 2003 adventuregal said: I don't enjoy guns, but did own one for a bit... Anschutz 22caliber Biathlon rifle. It was badass. Â Hey there Adventure Girl, that is a nice ava of Pictured Rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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