allthumbs Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 So far there are 123 people on the recall ballot. There will be more. Quite a lot to choose from. We all know California is full of nuts, fruits, and flakes and we know all the other glib references to the folks in California. I think it behooves us to try to understand what has happened to the Golden State and wonder if it will happen elsewhere. According to Pat Buchanan the federal government has had a lot to do with it and as I read it, those same policies that caused the California debacle can and probably will cause the same budgetary problems in other states. click for story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Maybe we could get a recall on the white house for digging use a deeper pit that CA is in. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/133009_spend31.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted August 1, 2003 Author Share Posted August 1, 2003 Ok... Now it's become a zoo... Larry Flint, publisher of Hustler, has paid the $3500 and gathered 65 signatures, and is running for Govenor of California.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpine_Tom Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Let's see: California got F*#ked by Enron, by deliberately manipulating the energy market and lying about it, draining something like $8 billion from the state. Bush's response: "drop dead." Californians have been busily passing initiatives limiting the ability of the state government to function (starting with Prop 13) and now it's the governor's fault that things aren't as good as they used to be. Yeah, sounds like the feds' fault to me. 'course, Pat Buchannan ("Hitler wasn't such a bad guy, no really! It was the Jews!") is probably the political comentator I'd most trust to give an accurate evaluation of a political situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitten Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 trask said: Ok... Now it's become a zoo... Larry Flint, publisher of Hustler, has paid the $3500 and gathered 65 signatures, and is running for Govenor of California.... He's apparently a good business man. Do we really need to know where the money came from or how he exploits women? He will fit right in with all the other politicians in California. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelle Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Prop 13 is one of the problems, but the state gov't can still raise property taxes 2%/year. It was passed because the state was getting out of control in levying property taxes back in the 70s. Yeah it has put their public education system in the toilet, but the real problem was the power crisis a few years ago. The Gov and other politicians were paranoid that if the state could not promise reliable power and eliminate the brown outs that silicon valley, food processing and other industries would simply walk out of the state. Then they got fked by Enron and a few other companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Harris Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 Alpine_Tom said: Let's see: California got F*#ked by Enron, by deliberately manipulating the energy market and lying about it, draining something like $8 billion from the state. Bush's response: "drop dead." When Enron was doing its thing, our Gov, Greyout Doofus sat on his thumbs and did nothing but negotiate long term contracts with energy companies at spot market prices. Excuse me, when he wasn't negotiating those contracts, Doofus was out raising tons of money to get re-elected and to hell with everything else. I know hard core democrats who say he is incompetant, but voted for him because of the other option. The dot com businesses going belly up didn't help things either. I do not know who I am going to vote for in the recall but I never have voted for Mr. Personality. Later, I've got a long drive to Portland ahead of me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lummox Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 im waiting to see what conan the republican announces next week. that fucking tease. application deadline is august 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted August 1, 2003 Author Share Posted August 1, 2003 I heard on the news two nights ago that Arnold withdrew his candidacy, and is backing numbnuts (the ex LA mayor, whatever the fuck his name is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisT Posted August 1, 2003 Share Posted August 1, 2003 California is far from dead. I go there about once a month and it's alive and kicking as far as I can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 "and we'll sink with California when it falls into the sea" - Youth Brigade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Harris Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 At least we finally passed a budget. Now Oregon is the only state left without one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 "Let California fall into the fucking ocean! Let California fall into the fucking ocean! Let California fall into the fucking ocean!" - Rancid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allthumbs Posted August 5, 2003 Author Share Posted August 5, 2003 I like girls in thongs and on roller blades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Harris Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 trask said: I like girls in thongs and on roller blades. You would find them in Southern California, in reality, a completely different state. I would be alright with me if they fell off into the ocean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Flash_Amazing Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 "you can see why it's easy to say hell looks alot like LA" - Less Than Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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