Dru Posted July 30, 2003 Posted July 30, 2003 Power in numbers The TOOL will have to call out the paddywagon if they want to make trouble
catbirdseat Posted July 30, 2003 Posted July 30, 2003 Beck, tell us more about the trail project. I'm into that kind of thing. Are we talking about FS trails or unofficial climber's trails to various crags? Is it one trail or several?
Thinker Posted July 30, 2003 Posted July 30, 2003 ehmmic said: Can we still climb at night by the full moon after enjoying a few beers or will that be in violation of someone's insurance? Can we still take over Castle Rock and Pearly Gates en masse or will that be considered poor stewardship? Can we watch AlpineK's entertaining way of starting a campfire? Don't forget the late night 'glow in the dark - clothes optional' frisbee comp.
jon Posted July 30, 2003 Posted July 30, 2003 The trail project, if there is one, will be something that has already been preapproved by the FS, meaning that it might not be one that goes to your favorite crag or to a crag at all. They have to do some bullshit enviro impact study that costs more then the work, meaining you can't legally go create or work on trails without their permission/bureaucracy. Hey Larry the Tool My stool I drop from up high Not the sitting kind
E-rock Posted July 30, 2003 Posted July 30, 2003 Some of the best Haikus I've ever read were written on this website.
AlpineK Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 Beck said: PLUS, Outdoor Research should be stewarding the kegs of Pyramid Brewery at the Ropeup as well... they had heard about Rat's performance hoarding the group pitcher at last years ropeup, however, and he has been 86'd from the beer garden. I'm not sure I'm down with this whole OR/Beer/Pyramid thing. In the first place (given that he's willing ) we want TG beer not that nasty ass Pyramid crap. Secondly, having professional beer servers entails liability and thus folks getting cut off and such. And lastly, but most importantly, Rat will not take kindly to being 86ed from the, "beer garden," and Tippi Turtles will side with Rat. Some of the stuff you're doing is great Beck! But I and others want rope up to be a fun party not some corporate fuck fuck event. I think a little give and take on decisions is in order.
erik Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 good pointes kurt i mean this is a party for cc.commers so shouldnt we have a say in what we want? i certainly do not want any of my activites curbed due to possible authoritarian types whom feel the need to wave the fact that since they have donated something that they get a controlling aspect of the debauchery..... i'll bet a nickel once rat reads this, he is gonne be like 5 times more aggro then last year!!! i am hiding my tent!
Beck Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 (edited) ...unless you people are planning this thing, I'd reserve comment and opinion, and just show up to enjoy it... I could care less if ehmic or alpine k are concerned about the 'grassrootsieness' of OR serving beer, if you guys can line up a gear manufacturer willing to serve free beer to dirtbag climbers, feel free to add them to the list.... this is not a festival open to the democratic process,-join in on the planning proccess if you are interested... as to the trails project, it looks to be a forest service approved event, not up to Careno Crags, unfortunately, for the reasons Jon mentioned above Edited July 31, 2003 by Beck
E-rock Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 Look, Beck. I think you're doing a fine job, and everyone appreciates the effort you're putting in, but it is going to far. We DON'T want corporate sponsorship. We DON"T want Larry the Tool to be invited (whether officially or not) to our party. I'll gladly PAY for my beer as long as we can keep this as a good old-fashioned, self-regulated get together. We should remain a fringe group. I think you'll find less of the people who climb together and make this site a success willing to come to rope-up this year if you turn it into a sponsored event. I don't want anyone telling me what I can and can't do with my friends in Leavenworth. I thought the whole point of a FALL rope-up was so that we could do it for free, and without the legal constraints that we might encounter during the earlier months. You're just inviting the very elements we're trying to avoid.
Dru Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 if you invite a bunch of cc.com regulars you might not be able to control the result the tippi turtle extends more than a head from its shell free beer is OK but if it comes with strings attached maybe its bribery? will we have to have nametags on our helmets and have the tool sign our names on a list saying we fixed up a trail and paid for a pass in order to do so, to get free beer or what?
minx Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 wow...i find it hard to argue w/e-rock and dru on this point. go figure
snoboy Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 Beck said: if you guys can line up a gear manufacturer willing to serve free beer to dirtbag climbers, feel free to add them to the list.... I thought the free beer thing was handled no prob last fall, from what I heard...
Cpt.Caveman Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 Just tell them gear reps to charge 50 cents and to raffle some gear off. I can bring my own booze but if it is supplied the better. Established trails in the icicle are needed in some areas. Or maybe improvement to some to eliminate or control erosion.
Beck Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 you guys, this is 2003 and a new year, the ropeup has ten times the sponsorship, and cc.comers aren't behind it? WTF is wrong here? It shows the climbing community is interested in the NW scene and you guys are bitching that Outdoor Research wants to serve us beer??? WTF?? Leave it alone, volunteer if you want. the beer is a sponsorship the ropeup is not going to thumb our noses at anyone who wants to assist in the planning process is welcome to volunteer
AlpineK Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 Yeah volunteer to do what you tell us. How about some discussion before we set things in stone.
Cpt.Caveman Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 Beck, I dont know about backing up or not being behind it myself. I think there is plenty of room out there and if you dont want to see OR or their reps then make another fire and tell your bedtime climbing stories. Not that you wouldnt be welcome I am sure. Most reps for gear companies are pretty laid back that I know. This buddy of mine is a gear rep for **** and you'd be surprised he's pretty low key. If OR wants to serve beer all I have to say is how many fuckin kegs?
Cpt.Caveman Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 AlpineK said: Yeah volunteer to do what you tell us. How about some discussion before we set things in stone. AlpineK I dont see any dictacting. Discuss your thoughts more detailed..
Beck Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 the ropeup is fully 'in process' as we speak any volunteerism would be welcomed we have a groundswell of support this year, folks! if you think you are involved in the ropeup planning, you are four months behind the rest of the team, sorry
Cpt.Caveman Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 Beck said: the ropeup is fully 'in process' as we speak any volunteerism would be welcomed we have a groundswell of support this year, folks! if you think you are involved in the ropeup planning, you are four months behind the rest of the team, sorry Just bring the slideshows on. Generator kegs and godo times. I make no mistake I am not in the planning but some of those comments make some people feel alienated.
Cpt.Caveman Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 BTW if rat's not welcome to guzzle bear and sling talk then I'm not going and I'll note all the descrimination to everyone I know. He's a tough motha with good stories and fun character.
snoboy Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 Cpt.Caveman said: BTW if rat's not welcome to guzzle bear I didn't reealize it was gonna be THAT kind of party!!!!!!!!
Fence_Sitter Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 whiny bitches... drink your beer... climb... and bull shit... ungratefull bastards... dont see you guys doin shit... beck's bustin his ass... wanna be 'fringers' with 9-5 ers... y'alls just a bunch of REI sapps in denial...
Cpt.Caveman Posted July 31, 2003 Posted July 31, 2003 snoboy said: Cpt.Caveman said: BTW if rat's not welcome to guzzle bear I didn't reealize it was gonna be THAT kind of party!!!!!!!! I Think he wants your children
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