The_North_Face Posted November 5, 2001 Share Posted November 5, 2001 An evening with Angela Hawse, Deputy Leader of the "1998 Everest Challenge." Wednesday, November 7, 2001, 7:00 PMThe North Face ... 1023 1st Ave, Seattle(206) 622-4111 On May 27, 1998, Tom Whittaker reached the 29,035-foot summit of Mt. Everest. The uniqueness of Mr. Whittaker's achievement is not only that he successfully made the summit, but to recognize that he is an amputee; the first amputee to summit Mt. Everest. Angela Hawse will narrate and show slides of this fantastic achievement that demonstrates that believing in our dreams, anything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 5, 2001 Share Posted November 5, 2001 quote: Originally posted by The North Face: Angela Hawse will narrate and show slides of this fantastic achievement that demonstrates that believing in our dreams, anything is possible.... ...if we have enough money and big-ticket sponsors to put together an "expedition" and siege and fix ropes and use oxygen and blah-blah-blah. Personally I think the Erik Wiehenmayer/Hugh Herr/Mark wellman ascent of Ancient Art was about 10 times more inspiring but that is just me. I'm still waiting for the first sufferer of Frogmorton's Syndrome to summit the Big E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 5, 2001 Share Posted November 5, 2001 Handicapps' climbing stuff is definitely ispiring. I dont doubt or want to discredit this dude's accomplishment or anoyone else's. It's killer if you ask me. I wish I could get some of that North Face money though heheheh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminal_Gravity Posted November 5, 2001 Share Posted November 5, 2001 Come on Dru! I think that you are sandbaging the real challenge here... clearly, with enough money the most difficult thing is to come up with another "first". I belive that this coming season the first Tuesday ascent by a natural red headed 32 year old female impersonator, will attempt the dreaded moondance on the summit....now thats something I want to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 5, 2001 Share Posted November 5, 2001 The next ascent of Everest will be achieved by piling up a mound of "Everest Literature" and motivational speakers who think that climbing Everest makes them and what they have to say interesting, and steeping DOWN onto the summit of Everest from the top of the trash heap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 5, 2001 Share Posted November 5, 2001 And I think that clearly Rheinhold Messner's ascent was the first disabled ascent of Everest. If you read anything that guy has written you will see he is suffering from some sort of bizarre mental condition: "I went to the Himalayas and saw the Yeti. Then I ran for the European Parliament!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chepe Posted November 5, 2001 Share Posted November 5, 2001 I'm guiding one of these to the top of Everest next season. Then I will write a book on it and broadcast it on the Discovery Channel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatboy Posted November 5, 2001 Share Posted November 5, 2001 Why do we need to say that one disabled climb is more inspirational than another? It is definitely impressive and inspirational that those folks climbed that bizarre sandstone spire, but that shouldn't diminish what Whittaker did. Sure, he probably used seige tactics and had guides and sherpas, and I'm assuming he even used bottled O2 (!) -- but the fact is that what he accomplished is nonetheless extraordinary. The climb is not significant because it was the FIRST -- it's significant because he was able to CLIMB THE HIGHEST MTN IN THE WORLD WITHOUT THE USE OF A LIMB. My grandmother just had a leg amputated, and will have the other leg amputated in a few weeks due to poor circulation -- and I would like to believe that stories such as Whittaker's can provide inspiration for amputees to accomplish incredible things despite their disabilities. I'm not suggesting that my grandma will be summitting K2 anytime soon, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 5, 2001 Share Posted November 5, 2001 Some things are definitely more inspirational than others, sad but true. Take Whittaker's ascent. would it have been as inspiring if he was missing a hand instead of a foot? OK then how about missing a finger instead of a foot? Little finger vs,. index finger vs. thumb? What if he was missing both legs below the knee(like Hugh Herr) instead of one foot? What if he had soloed it without oxygen with the disability he has? The inspiration comes not just from the accomplishment but from the style with which it was performed. If some quadraplegic was carried to the summit by Sherpas, it would be a "disabled ascent", but how inspiring would it be? The thing that I like about the Ancient Art ascent is the way the three of them were able to work as a team and overlap their capabilities for a successful ascent. And my gripe about the Slideshow advertised above is that it is motivational Everest hype pure and simple, USING Whittakers disability as a shill to suck you in and tap your $$$$. The slide show itself is "free" but the point is to hype the Sponsors. "Puffy Wipe - just like we used on Everist hyest in the WURLD!!!" [ 11-05-2001: Message edited by: Dru ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 5, 2001 Share Posted November 5, 2001 Why doesn't Whittaker narrate this himself? I would enjoy it more if the person that was actually there was hosting his own show. Who is this Angela Hawes lady? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbb Posted November 5, 2001 Share Posted November 5, 2001 besides, I'm sure many people without toes have climbed everest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 5, 2001 Share Posted November 5, 2001 most of them started with a full set! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 Angela rocks! She's way burlier than any of you fools. Oh and Dru, TNF doesn't need some slideshow to get "hype". They have a new Electric Blanket Coat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleblebleb Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 Aw man, that's pretty harsh? It's cool to have slideshows posted on the board, but noone will do it if we always bite their heads off. Plus I think it's pretty amazing that guy did climb Everest, siege or not. And you're going in the wrong direction with the missing body parts, the really interesting question is how many prosthetics are you *allowed* to have on a cool Everest climb. Or bioengineering, even better, say, if Cpt. has a brain transplant with a yeti and moves to the summit of Everest, is it cool or is he just a loser who had a brain transplant with a yeti and lives on the top of the world? Oops, just realized I've never really posted to one of those threads-on-fire. Bet I just set myself up for a good flaming. Bring on those napalm hoses! BTW where do you go to get a cheap bolt kit these days? Cheers/stebbi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 If the Capt had a brain transplant with a yeti the yeti would probably die and that would be endangerment of an endangered species! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 quote: Originally posted by lambone: Angela rocks! She's way burlier than any of you fools. Oh and Dru, TNF doesn't need some slideshow to get "hype". They have a new Electric Blanket Coat! And the TNF edition SUV!! creating global warming and destroying the market for their electric coats... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 quote: Originally posted by lambone: Angela rocks! She's way burlier than any of you fools. Oh and Dru, TNF doesn't need some slideshow to get "hype". They have a new Electric Blanket Coat! I just asked who she was Lammy. I noticed your renewed sense of passively agressively lashing out on me and Dru recently...... Chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambone Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 Relax dawg I'm just playin' (FYI- the face with the little tounge that sticks out hints that a remark may be some what sarcastic by nature, or at least not all that serious ) Angela was part of the expidition team, allthough I am not sure what her role was... Anyway she got pretty high on the mountain. It should be a cool slide show, too bad I'll be in class [ 11-06-2001: Message edited by: lambone ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Caveman Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 Ok I wont thrash on you cuz you can't spell too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dru Posted November 6, 2001 Share Posted November 6, 2001 I get pretty high on mountains too , usually, can I do a slide show about that 'bone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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