specialed Posted March 27, 2003 Posted March 27, 2003 I think J-tree ratings are harder than Index, Sqeamish, and Valley. Maybe its just that the climbs there are so fuckin funky. ...yeah I too heard Erik got a job, as some sort of pimp for midget prostitutes or was filming and selling midget porn. Regardless, I'm just glad he's gainfully employed now! Quote
Dru Posted March 27, 2003 Posted March 27, 2003 dude, some josh routes are hard for their grade, and others are total gimme. generally at josh, the newer the easier, i find. Quote
catbirdseat Posted March 27, 2003 Posted March 27, 2003 Ah yes, harken back to those thrilling days of yesteryear when men were men and routes weren't sandbagged (and sheep were scared). Quote
erik Posted March 27, 2003 Posted March 27, 2003 catbirdseat said: Ah yes, harken back to those thrilling days of yesteryear when men were men and routes weren't sandbagged (and sheep were scared). in trask's neighborhood they still are! Quote
catbirdseat Posted March 27, 2003 Posted March 27, 2003 Little sheep, little sheep, run away, run away! Quote
ScottP Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 Common understanding: Ratings are largely subjective i.e. existing only in the someone's mind i.e. opinion The more people supplying ratings (major increase in climbing population in the last decade), the more variation in opinion. i.e. the wider the range of ratings for a comparative type of climbing. Finis: Yosemite Ratings? Go to Tahquitz, where the YDS got its start, and climb those routes as a baseline. Then go to the Valley to get the a, b, c, d subset. Anything else is conjecture. Go for aesthetics, and screw the grade! Best comment yet. Quote
North_by_Northwest Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 Order of difficulty from hardest to softest (in my mind): 1. Joshua Tree 2. Index 3. Yosemite 4. Leavenworth (almost the same as Yosemite) Obviously there is a wide range of ratings in any one area. (say that ten times fast) Still, I feel there is a common thread and a common standard to most areas. Worst comment EVER! Quote
specialed Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 freeclimb9 said: RuMR said: They do matter if you're trying to gauge what you should jump on the 1st time you arrive at a destination... Ha! Go for aesthetics, and screw the grade! Then their wouldn't be anything to talk shit about!! Quote
erik Posted March 28, 2003 Posted March 28, 2003 specialed said: freeclimb9 said: RuMR said: They do matter if you're trying to gauge what you should jump on the 1st time you arrive at a destination... Ha! Go for aesthetics, and screw the grade! Then their wouldn't be anything to talk shit about!! theres always your mom!!! Quote
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