erik

been there, done that!

tom, if you find out more...i'll go with you...and even go down in that dark dank hole first too! always lookin for a spelunking adventure in the cave poor state of washington!

DRU, I DONT LIKE CHERRIES OR FAIRIES....I GOT ME A REAL PURDY GURLFRIEND....AND I WON'T SHARE. CAVEMAN MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT STORY....DAMN NEANDRATHALS

NOW THAT IS NASTY! NOT SURE I WANTED TO HEAR THAT ONE......

YUMMY, NEW FISH! DRUL, YOU STILL HAVE THE RECIEPE YOU GOT FROM PRISON?

ed, i got a bunch of shoes with no toes, if you need to offset your seattle rent, i will bring them to the next pub club.... i bet if you look in the football locker room, under bloody gloves and other oddities you might find them!

da bone, good to see no harsh feelings about having your application rejected. we here at the trad klan association feel that it will give you a much needed benchmark to aim for, we are excitidly anticipating your next application.

barry, me bro climbed it in tennie's earlier this week, patchy snow....have fun and be safe. nice day trip! ice axe would be nice. sorry hazy postings. [This message has been edited by erik (edited 07-12-2001).]

also rememeber if you are wall climbing in yosemite or zion and have to rescued they might/will fine you for having improper gear. so colin maybe oyu should by a lightweight warm weather synthetic bag and cold weather heavyweight down bag.

there's going to be more then one bone in the world!!! i am moving to canada! make room drul one more lousy american going to head to northern washington...oops i mean b.c.

i wouldnt bring much more then maybe a #2 cam, and if so bring hexes in stead, you can work around most of the hard spots and you can find lots of small placments. good route with some interesting rock, if you can do the traverse to ellinot as well, makes it a full day

synthetic bags should not have a moisture barrier like dryloft or conduit, it doe snot allow for the moisture to escape the bag, causing to be clamy and not dry out fast enough....though with down i am sure that it is required. dryloft+down=good dryloft+synthetic=bad

probably cause they cannot fit into normal clothes.... hefty hefty 2x4 can't fit throught the dressing room door......

what does everyone do for work? i do desk reviews of insurance claims. pretty sucky job, but i get to tell people to bite it and have a super flexiable schedule....it's one of those project oriantated jobs.

ed, thought unicorn was over by ruston off of stevens or some shit?! beach tavern is down by titlow, not sure if thats the place us climbers want to hang.....though the uni does sell p.b.r.

7/17/01 (thats next tuesday) @ 7 pm parkway tavern in tacoma. you can even tie your dogs up outside! i'll buy the 1st pitcher, but come early, cause i drink fast! [This message has been edited by erik (edited 07-10-2001).]

there is some good buildering right near the parkway in the stadium district.

u might be able to use lambone's strap on, he said it is very useful in wide slots. i personally will be running it out. [This message has been edited by erik (edited 07-10-2001).]

nope- expedia. i know someone there

parkway tavern is a good choice in tacoma....close to the freeways and lots of parking in the nighborhood. plus it is close to thospital in case someone slips and falls on some spray! here are directions from 1-90 & 1-5 interchange. Directions Start: Depart I-5 & I-90, Seattle, WA, 98134 4: Merge onto I-5 (South) 5: At I-5 Exit 133, turn off onto Ramp 6: Merge onto I-705 (North) 7: Turn off onto Ramp 8: Turn RIGHT (North) onto Stadium Way S 9: Turn LEFT (South-West) onto Division Ave 10: Bear RIGHT (West) onto N I St End: Arrive 313 N I St, Tacoma, WA, 98403 Total Route 34.3 mi 48 mins

beck how about alternating locations...and then we can all agree on the best one. and i think a little later then 5:30 is best...some people have to fight traffic....i love taking 2 hrs to go from bellevue to tacoma! i can only recommend pubs in tacoma/oly area. but if we are going to do some serious drinking they better have pizza too!

bone, if you use strap on crampons you should be cool, but i don't think that your special toy should go into the b/c. though you might use it to protect the gendarme offwidth. and the ligtest boot, that your crampons will fit work best....and of course rock shoes...make you climb supa' fast.

i thought the scale at rei was to measure fat in their low-fat biscotti....i might be wrong!

tod, only last bit was icy, and we deceided to move onto the rock they last to avoid hassling with crampons.... the decent we followed was a special one. follow south side route till you get to the huge scree slope and go down. once we reached a waterfall/cliff we traversed west through trees and brush back to the basin. we bush wacked a fiar bit, but that is because we missed the obvious trail. excellent day climb!

synthetic is not bad at all. the matter of fact is that i am allergic to down, so i hav eno option other then to get synthetic bags...in the yrs i have been cimbing my bag seems to end up wet after a multiday trip....i have woken up in the middle of the nite with it raining and being to lazy to get the tent/bivi out i slept in the rain. warm and cozy with only a ligt damp top of the bag. the next night i crawled in and within an hour or so, the whole bag was dry(note i did set tent up next night) i have seen friends down bags wet out do to not closing bivi sacks and have not enjoyed the unrestful nights. also as far as cost goes you can get good synthetic bags for $100 +/- few bucks... $100 x 8 bags = $800. i have found the synthetic bags last about 1.5 yrs x 8 bags = 12 yrs.... plus with cheaper bags you are not locked into one thig for along time, which as it seems climbing tech moves along everyone else does too.... down bag $800 x 1 bag = $800. not sure on life expectancy of down bags(i'm sure it is variable & i know you can refill them) good luck and buy what YOU think will work for you. it is your money.