erik

i always p.b.r. was made from cow piss ....you sure they were veggies!

tru dat ed, the fact that index is closer and seattle gets better shows are the only 2 things seattle has over tacoma. and shit i can just go there and see my shows and return home. [This message has been edited by erik (edited 07-06-2001).]

better to live in tacoma, with a lower cost of living and better views then to wallow in that overpopulated cess poll they call seattle for 1 second. atleast we know where we came from and where we are going. man the mtn is looking nice and so are those olympic mtns as well.

why don't you name some of the problems! i think me biggest problem is that the city of tacoma has hanging power lines that obstruct my view of mt. rainer.

just trying to get you fired up. shoulda never used a racial slur, hard to make friends after that!

ed, once again you are wrong. messner is from south tyrol which is a of state italy bordering austria. maybe next time. and i heard they ate dogs there during the war. http://www.sudtirol.com/convbureauaa/pag02e.htm and after rerading how good messner knows he is, it gets a little old. [This message has been edited by erik (edited 07-06-2001).]

I Overheard this on at Yosemite... "I'm gonna have to take you off belay for a second...the dog's tangled in the rope" this appears to be problem # 784,154,415,001 why not to bring dogs to the crags. so maybe saying i would kick a dog is a little overboard. then again so is bring one to crag....i don't see that many babies at the crag and they are just about the same thing. i mean in most of the rest of the world dogs are eaten......did america once again give inflated value on something..... i think in the end it is funny how you all stick up for dogs, and at the same time curse them secretly. i am sure your dog has barked and barked and barked to the point of annoyance. cost you $k's for food, medical bills and et al. wasted money my friends. my bro with the parvo puppy lost a big chunk of his roadtrip money and let me tell you that cost me.......gas money.

uw is going to miving their experiment over near hanford. iwas talking to bro awhile back and he showed me the whole set up.... the conversation went like this..... uw...blah....blah....................................................................................................gravity........................................................ ...........radiation........................................5th phd...........................................................boeing...............................................blah...blah...............hanford..................neutrino...... ..............have a nice day. all the blanks was homeboy getting excited and explaining the whole process. i finally got that blank stare that my girlfriend gives me when i talk about lcimbing....hmmmm

ez with the slurs bro, calling ma nazi is not cool at all. especailly over a debate about dogs. maybe we need to grid bolt the lower 3 feet of every crag so there are good anchor points for everyone's dogs. still man i know you are going to bring your dog, you know i am not going to like it. i am non-confontational though if someones sweet poochy deciedes to violate me or my crew or gear then a swift kick shall solve the problem. back on the farm where we grew up dogs were not mommy's little pets but work animals. sure they provide companionship, but i think someone could argue that television provides companionship too! anyones' kids get babysat by the tv? then again the only time i have a good conversation with a dog was after a 1/2 rack and the next morning she wasn't that hot!

hmmmm, i am a dog hater??? wonder when i said that?! probably never! i don't like cats. sure there are good ones and bad ones, but it is not the publics job to deal or determine that. if all dogs are so great then why is there soo mnay dog free zones in public? did you know all dogs within a washington state park must be on a leash and under owner control at all times. this includes index town walls(wenberg s.p.) exit 38 (easton lk s.p.) peshastin pinnacles s.p. beacon rock s.p. and i am sure others. how can you be in control of your animal if you are climbing? oh wait is he now tied up? hmmm............

my bro john has a malmute that when it was a pup contracted parvo. after about $1500 in dog bills she was healthy. and she was vaccinated. you cannot tell me that all dogs as safe with vaccination. it would be like saying all humans are safe from tetnous and other diseases/virus..blah.... dog aonly really belong two places at home and on a leash. people who bring dogs the crags to tie them up are not good dog owners. why don't i tie you up for the afternoon. and people who let their pooches wonder are also not good dog ownbers as well, be more responsible, you should consider other users then yourself, dogs might be cute and happy and a real pleasure to pet when they are at home, but when it comes to new territory they tend to aggresive, to protect their new found kingdom. get real and leave dogs at home. or stay home yourself. what about people who are allergic to dogs and other animals, now you are jeperdizing them. and i am sure everyone's dog is the best in the world. but even the best sometime fail to perform. (ask drul!) [This message has been edited by erik (edited 07-05-2001).]

freak, check out cathedral peak in toulome, nice chill hike, apprently there is some 5.6 moves, and a little down climb off the summit. also the echo peaks and the matthes crest. anything in that range has some really sweat soloable stuff with walk offs. another thing that i recommend is to run between toulome and the valley via tenya canyon and solo clouds rest. very nice, i think technically it is the biggest face in america. though you will need a 50 ft section of cord to rap in the canyon, you don't need to rap, but the slot canyon is better then gravely ledges.

sorry to disappoint will, not to much on the slc scene. the mormons scare me! though the desert is quite quite nice. so i will concede and only accept a 5pack of yo finest stout!

easy kids on tacoma. i got me a 3 bedroom house with lots of room, everyone except bellingham residents and will can sleep inside.

lisa \"/! what does that mean? i have some ideas , but i'm not sure if i want to mention them.

i thought you were referring to my kayak, which is hard plastic. nope as i have told you before, i got me a real one this time! and she sure is pretty. much prettier then your mom, which by thwe way tell your dad i didn't mean wake him the toher nite with your mom's moans! lick lick

caveman, u like anything wide you can crawl in!

will, i have no problem with you sleeping in my back yard. though you might have to watch out for the neighbors, you know tacoma! and for any canadaians

dru, you won't have to hassle with the border crossing. bro's gotta stick together, though i still will not share my girlfriend.

dru, maybe you should name the route caveman diner!

DEAN STEPH BOONE LEO HUBER

well it has been a while since i started to grace this fine website with my mindless drivel and just wanted to say that i appreciate all the work and bullshit mr tim and mr jon have to deal with. another thing is all the great people i have met and climbed with because of this site. mr. goodtime dr. jay dave parker the good cpt. adamson timL adian terry if i left you off the list there is a reason. hopefully in the last few months that i have to spend in the casecades, i hope that we all can have fun and be safe. p.s. i would also like to say thank you to my boss for allowing so many hours of unproductivity while attempting to make sure th internet is bogged down with sarcasm and other worth-little material!

i guess they were too busy dealing with all those other criminal acts taking place in the icicle. that week. trail pass violaters.

unless, he is in charge of the pnw aac branch and does not repsond to emails about me and others wanting to help orgainze events in the section. going to his son's graduation! wow! if my parents would have only come home from vacation to attend mine, i might have been a better person. personally, the above would seem like an event cast in stone. is there not life beyond climbing? family is the greatest accomplishment.

Attn: Trad Klan members, or anyone else planing on going to index this weekend. There is a huge jibber-fest(ww kayking) festival happening in Index this weekend. So be careful, them jibbers are a wiley bunch. Then again, they have kegs and a band. http://www.image-that.com/skyfest/