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quote: Originally posted by Stefan: The only thing that I think I would want out of the guiding side of Mt. Rainier is to make the contracts publicly available for viewing. I have heard rumors that people can't see the contracts--which does not make sense to me. I thought that all federal contracts are publicly available--except of course those contracts that are needed for national security. stefan, i have made the request for the information...intianlly i wanted it before the meetings, but after talking to MORA they said that they had no problem sending them to me, but only after the edited out the parts they wanted..... it is called the freedom of information act.

quote: Originally posted by willstrickland: Sounds like one of you sincere, smart, studly, sensitive, soul-searchering types needs to show up and bat your eyes at Allison so as to pique her interest and get her "enthused enough about it to drive to I-Quah" I'm enthused enough about it that I'll make an appearance some week soon, preferably after a weekend at Index with one/some of youse. Got those sick days to burn up before I quit ya know... well shit man you better get sick soon, before all the seattl-lites figure out how crappy index is all the time and then start to flock all over it like they do exit 30-something.....

quote: Originally posted by rr666: we can start the whole anti-gym thread all over. my basic opinion is that gyms really suck compared to real rock, but when it is all you have to get a pump and stay in shape, I will take it. I go to climb rather than socialize. I would very much rather be out at Index jamming up a crack than pulling on plastic any day. all i was doing was making an oberservation, next thing i know hiwerwa and sloppy were hitting on me.....i am inncoent!!! as usuall!!!

bites and slaps woo hoo...... soundz like we need to move pub club over to the catwalk club tonite......meow!!!!

funny thing is all you gym-bies stuck in a dusty room with most likely crappy music dont even know each other!!!!! dats funny.....soo much for the personal interaction between the social gym crowd!!! see you all later!!

quote: Originally posted by Bronco: you can almost always tell the guys from tacoma, they are the ones who are in the Index parking lot trying to play with a soggy hacky sac when they could be climbing another route or helping out a another brutha learning the ropes!!!!

quote: Originally posted by Beck: NEVER heard of a man not standing up for his wife and waiting for a lawsuit, who cut his balls off? Her? ahhh mista beck dat would wut sum peeps b callin a settled man....a man that has settled for imprisonment...not dat dats a bad ting..... and another thing on that subject.....i have been in two altercations in my entire life (beating my brother sensless does not count) but one was in the defense of my woman and all i can say is that once is all said and done, though i may have felt bad in my actions.....she more then let me know how much she appreciated my actions defending her.....

quote: Originally posted by DLunkman: Come one come all to the Issaquah Festival of Hot Dogs! It does my old heart good to see you boys stick to your "guns" no matter how many times Allison announces she will not attend. I wish I could be there but my wife won't let me go. you can almost always tell the married guys, they make the biggest deal about if there are woman around at the pub clubs...sometimes it sucks to have already ordered but see something else you would like to eat.....granted it is always nice to have female presence around....and it does balance the hormone equation....but sheeeeit i would quote snoop dogg, but would probably have murder as the case that they gave me if..... i'll close my mouth now!!!

i'm with matt on this one...... i like to go out and meet different people that i might not meet otherwise.... pub clubs have led me to some interesting adventures and definatly to meet some great people...... there should not be an dissention in the ranks and other whom may not want to join the choosen venure should certainly go out and be merry, but not at the cost of talkin trash about the event.....bad form....... if you don't like the locaction or think that you are being wronged then suck it up and make the chouce next week... i thought we had kinda had a schedule decided a couple months ago.....s, s, t, o, s, s, t, o...... seems fair enough....

I WOULD TEND TO THINK THAT THE AVALUNG WOULD WORK ONLY IN A LIGHTER SNOW PACK.... WHERES AS THE YOU GET BURIED IN CASCADE CONCRETE THE AIR POCKETS WOULD SEEM SMALLER AS THE SNOW IS GENERALLY HEAVIER AND WOULD COMPACT MORE.... I DUNNO THOUGH WHAT DOES EVERYONE ELSE THINK....

t-town be repersentin......... though i will be there at 6:30-7ish......

jstreet, the ice around narada is the acutal falls....park in the sign lot and walk around to the view area....or you can hope over the barrier and rap down..... other ice in the narada area is ust west of the falls back towards longmire.....you will see it.. nothing harder then 3+ last year, but as you know can chage all the time.... there are also some good flows up from the nisqaully bridge.....(on the way to paradise) look towards the mtn as you cross the brodge and you will see what you are looking for... cascadeclimber i think went there this weekend.... also there is some more awesome ice in the vicinity but i will only sell that beta or give it to someone who is cool!!!!

* yawn *

quote: Originally posted by W: No way, Jose- the "man in uniform" with the ambiguous world view, in full rebellion to his authoritative employer, who is content earning a meager wage for the benefit of his job being totally independent and suited to his lifestyle will defeat the hairsprayed, foo-foo dick in the Porsche anyday! The former of the above has SO MUCH potential for the woman to want to try to CHANGE in him? Get it?!!? w i like your ploy, didnt see it like that hmmm.....maybe i will have to rethink it.....

mistake on my part...for the ingore....sorry nothing personal, just a computer ignorant person using one...

quote: Originally posted by CleeshterFeeshter: Yeah, Left wing in a perverted sort of way. I have my AR-15A2 (pre-ban of course) amongst other special left wing toys. Being this is spray and a free for all- Your terrorist is my freedom fighter. In case you have forgotten whom runs the show. “The oil companies want to go back in, big-time.” — CAPITOL HILL AIDE a quote from MSN regarding efforts to "rehabilitate" LibyaYou demopublican cheetos eatin sport climbing bolt clippin need to accept your slavery and bend over uh oh......cleester is off the meds again......

issaquah brew house is easy and good!!!! cc can you verify it......ray????

fun stuff eh loren??? but shhhhh!!!!

nelly......shhhhhh!!!! dont start with em....they'll never stop cryin... [ 03-11-2002: Message edited by: erik ]

if that is the case that is certainly too bad....a decent climbing resource sold down the creek for a new and improved sea-tac runway..... dont quote me (sure no one ever does ) i dont remember the name of the company that is going to do the strip minning off the hillside....but havent they had a few disasters in the past?? though i think exit 38 is technically part of the iron horse state park, managed by the lake easton park dudes..... wa state has a funny way of having not so close parks manage other low maintance parks...

quote: Originally posted by willstrickland: . Manufacturers should not even produce non-bi color or bi-pattern ropes now that they have the technology. Production cost is virtually no higher, so why do we even need single pattern/color stuff? cause sometimes Will, one of the bi-color patterns might not match yours or your climbing partners outfit.....or vise versa....., i mean what if you both cordinate off of only one color for your daze ansamble and not the other....??? think of what it might do for shoe selection!!!! get it together man....half of being bitchin, is lookin bitchin'!!!!

another thing just as bad as people who concern themselves with others spelling and grammer...... is people who tell other people to check thier private messages........sheesh!!!!!

quote: Originally posted by max: ...especially considering the intellect displayed in some posts! [ 03-11-2002: Message edited by: max ] some day my dear you and i will meet and you will buy me beers so i am soo damn cool!!!! [ 03-11-2002: Message edited by: erik ]

quote: Originally posted by allison: Erik, Five miles each way is not acceptable. Especially when there's a perfectly good road that is open to the 8Mile TH. I think we'll be just fine parking at the 8Mile TH and walking the extra mile to the Colchuck TH. Sounds like the creek is passable if we decide to go that way. I am hoping to make that decision after the road is closed. If it look like we can't get in that way, any one been in to Lost World Plateau via either the Rat Creek or Hook Creek drainage? They both look heinous on the map! Oh, and thanks so much for the advice on packing my pack.....I couldn't have done it without you. easy there sista!!!! 5 miles is the hike up the closed road from 8mile campground....reread what i wrote.....8mile th is up beyond the road closure... chalk is unsighly and not needed at the crag or the mtns.....

nelly i will slighly disagree with you....me friends and i are all self taught.....we found in interesting after a friend came back from boyscout camp and then we were off..... granted i am sketchy but the guys that i satarted with fucking own this sport......and are onmly getting better everyday......then again i am getting better too.... but we took what we thought we knew, bought jon longs book we all read it and went out and applied it......it just takes careful thought and determination to to become safe successful climber..... and i think the best climbers i know are self taught....maybe it is that the are highly motivated and have the drive to become successful....and that is why they are able to learn the sport???? i dunno just a thought