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quote: Originally posted by erden: So, specialed and dru, since I do not know you: - how many big walls did you do? - care to share if you ever set up your bivy ledge before you got on a wall, or ever stood in aiders before you got on a wall? but since both of you walk on water, you probably knew all that before you got on the walls... I say you bullies calm down and let the people learn the skills before committing themselves to something big. Not everyone will get on an expando flake and conquer A4-A5 on their first big wall. Contrary to some of your inuendo, big wall ain't = A5. Let them be, at least they were practicing on junk rock!!! [ 03-28-2002: Message edited by: erden ] ill talk some shit too, nailing at dis-vantage is not like nailing in fine granite........first of all the nature of the rock at dis-vantage makes most nailing to be more destructive then on other types of rock........the struturual and superfical cracks that are created around your pin placement are more detructive the most other things going on there..........you do not create a placement where it can be used over and over and over again, with the mojaority of the damage being a larger pocket....no you just fucking detroy the rock period....that is irresponsible..... i am a pretty mellow person, but if i had seen those people nailing for the sake of nailing i might have exploded into an enviromental impact diatribe and coming from a republican it is a harsh one..........(and i will not make a statement about gridbolting here) now the only practice for walling is walling.....go to index and do some of the baby walls and then head to the wa pass and do some medium walls....there is nothing wrong with practicing, but practice in the correct medium....one that has little to now impact.. granted i will applaud the mtneers for choosing the zig zag wall, which sees little traffic, but come one guyz aiding at dis-vantage is like fucking a blow up doll( i have never done this, either activity) it might kinda be like what you want to do, but shit once everyone finds out ya did there is gonna be a lot of laughs at your actions......please leave the blow up doll alone(dis-vantage) and go practice some where real....... enjoy and be safe.....

is this the same race where the the very fortunate will be donating their prizes and other winnings to less fortuante people throughout the puget sound region?? it wouls be really cool, if outdoor enthusiasits could help people who have little to no oppertunity to enjoy the recrational playground that soo many of us enjoy!!! good luck folks and remember the less fortunate..... erik

quote: Originally posted by jon: Yeah what he said! GRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!! I'm a pony, a pony, um um.....I mean a TIGER GRRRRRRRRRRR!! Take a poop in a bag and light it on fire on your portch. Thats right I called the shit poop. this is a prime example why one should never ingest lab chemicals.....jon once a normal boy has turned into a freak of college debt, willing to pay it off anyway possible..... good jon, come down from the file cabnit and give us the test tube.....

he doesnt know he is from canyuckada....they're all mixed up there........ crazy canyucks!!!!

welcome steve...... you have entered a realm where a5 seems mellow and long runouts(ons) are common place...this is a feeding ground for the cubicly enchained..... we are a mottly crew.... well except for me i am the nicest person ever!!!!

quote: Originally posted by lizard brain: Am I the only one that doesn't cook on trips anymore? I eat only cold stuff, and leave the stove at home unless it is absolutely necessary for melting snow. I find it hard for me to eat when I'm working hard anyway, so I pretty much have to force myself to eat on trips. So for any early morning summit day, for me it's a Cliff bar and a couple of Vivarin for breakfast, Gu all day, and dinner in town. theres medication for that....though i think you need to find a specific doctor for the scrip.....

i'll be in on that one!!!! unless i am in yose....but in that case ill be drinkin and climbing still!!! finally pp has some logic!!!!

quote: Originally posted by chucK: Hey Ed, Are your shoes with Erik's guidebook? You gotta pack before you pack! Senior moment? Hah, more like Friday night High School Senior moment is my guess. Heh, just bustin' yer chops Big Ed . Hope you get yer shoes back. i wouldnt hang out with that guy, if your life depended on it.....granted i'll let him belay me, but i wouldn't be caught dead hangin with him.... and i lost my book the day before..... and dwayner....the middle east wall has some very fine jam cracks......granted it is not granite, but sometimes we gotta lower the standards to make the good stuff that much more good!!!!!

quote: Originally posted by offwidthclimber: for anyone interested a good read on the matter is "a river lost - the life and death of the columbia" by blaine harden. peace. a book that counters your book is "the organic machine" by i think richard levy(?) he is a uw guy, so i bet he got some local perspective.......

she can to whistler and party it up!!!! only a few minutes ne of squish.....and in june you will probalby go with her cause it is raining.... oh yeah theres: hikingbike ridingww kayakingfishingphotographya nice book storestarbucksand the best past time of all!!!! lauging at our neighbors to the north!!!! good funny folks they are!!!!

quote: Originally posted by Country Jake: he obvously is one of the web goorus of this .com site.... he has acsess to all editing on the hole site... am I right? partially the other half of it, is that i have some seriously rapid thoughts and much errant clicking.........

quote: Originally posted by rbw1966: Sure is. I have a friend who worked at a rental car lot. One key opened every model of a particular manufacturer. i wont debate with you, cuz i am sure you are right.....but you need to remember that that is a rental fleet, and the vehicle manufactur has leasing and supply aggrements with the rental agencies.......and so they can and do provide generic key coding to vehicles...... so as far as standard consumer vehicles go, no you are wrong...no as far as mass fleet vehicles go you are partially right....

zeno check out edelwiess ropes and i know mammut is/or has coming out with a super safe rope in a samller diameter...... enjoy do you still want those screws too??

good topic chucK

good topic matt

easiest meal.... whatever your partner is eating.... another option friends houses and another one stop by the folks place and clean them out.......

mtngrll and all others.... the master key for cars is not true....maybe back in the old daze....but now with all the electrnic thingy magigs and stuff....it aint true.. now they might have a radio transciever that scan and puts out frequencies that will unlock all that keyless crap people have going on with their hooptys....... buy a chevy near theft proof..... subarus are very easy to get into....and now more and more with all th hype with over priced gear and shit....subies make an easy highly profitable target...specailly when all your gear is in one bag...all they gotta do is grab and go.... another reason why gear stickers on your car are a bad idea......

this sounz generic....but it all depends....i got a ropes at lotsa lengths.......felxabilty is the key...... also consider possible rappels either on route or on descent..... though i am inclinded to sport a 50m most times in the mtns....give you more rap anochors...and when that is case remember to bring your buddies rope...

quote: Originally posted by chucK: What do you think? well you really want to know what i think???? wow!!!!! well i am an alpinist(and a fat one at that), so my objective is to obtain the summit in as effiecent and safe way possible....granted i try not to pull on gear.........but if there is a hold on the rock, i am using it......why not......???? i mean when was the last time you looked at anything and thought to yourself: "man, i will take the hardest way" granted to cragging is to practice your technique and to get strong, so if you have a problem with using "off" routes holds, then by all means don't.....but if you harp on me about it.....well i am from tacoma....

quote: Originally posted by moonchild: PS. You mean there are actually other climbers down south here!?!?!? sheeit the best climbers live in pierce county!!!!! always have always will........

YOU KNOW THIS COAT SEEMS PRETTY STUPID, CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT IF YOU KEEP MOVING AND ARE FAT LIKE MYSELF, AN BATTERY POWERED COAT WOULD PROBABLY PUT ME INTO HYPERTHERMEA..... THEN AGAIN WHAT DO I KNOW.....I AM FROM TACOMA AND CANNOT BELAY......

taken from jacksonhole.com Snow Depth:81" at the Summit and 72" Mid-Mountain Total Snowfall:over 395" at the Summit and 300" Mid-Mountain taken from summit@snoq.com alpental summit 206" and base 141" i dunno does anyone in jackson know what snow is???? probably the same answer as your question...... have fun and be safe...... washington is by far the absolute best state in the usa....dont forget that kidz...............

i think iceice and freeclimb should be partners..... "you tied my knot right?""no, you tied mine right?""no" "well shit, who tied it?""i don't remember""but someone did, cause i remember that one time when it was -40 out, there was a knot tied""well shit, that was back in '43!""what happens if they knot that isnt tied fails?""well will find someone to blame!! cuz it can't be us!!!""we knew how to tie the knot!!""and we knew that the know was untied, but still it can't be our fault..."

quote: Originally posted by specialed: Sad bro, sad. Good thing or I'd have to laugh at your ass when I saw you at the crag. ed dont laugh too hard you might spill your beer, hey arent you still belaying me......

that really sux.....if i see them this weekend i will return yur gear to you with their head....