erik

i wondered the same thing....but after it got to the point of repsoling them, the shoe was soo broken down that it was going to be a waste of oney.... i say get new ones [ 04-09-2002: Message edited by: erik ]

"FUCK!!!!!" -everyone.

quote: Originally posted by avypoodle: nevermind [ 04-09-2002: Message edited by: avypoodle ] were you going to say crack hoes and the what not avy??? cuz i meet some interesting gurls strung out some very bad things up there....like the gold card or their boyfriend's wallet......

and chucK, special does need those things....weak as he is any excuse to not go climbing works for him....... and special i gave your rasta knot cap to a young street punk named moonflower paste...........

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: You'll need lots of chalk today! actually bone, i think chalk today would hamper your progress.......it would create a nasty think slimy white ooze on your hands....i climb in the rain on occasion and after my own theories and studies i find it a negative factor..... then again chalk is the true root of sweaty hands in the first place....plus it looks nasty on the rock and is a waste of money....now remember this is all my opinion and if you see me ever using chalk feel free to call me on it...... and where are the results on your survey yo??

aww theres no harsh feelings... i just think it is funny to see you guys get your panties in a bunch whenever something bad about bhamer is rumored.... i have had friends attend the educational establishment and have spent plenty of time there.......it is not paradise and cannot even come close to qualifing.....then again any place where you have to have a job is not paradise.... but it is just like every other college town....idealistic and that gets old after about 35 seconds(unless she is really cute)...granted there are good people there, but the hype is just that......and i would never desire to live there.....couldnt even pay me....... say what you want asbout tacoma...i love it here...it provides me with what i need and want..... enjoy

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if this is the trip i got shown a couple weeks ago, through my beer clouded mind it is a sweet but difficult undertaking..... i would go, but i've got some sandstone in my future.......... and i would climb or ski with kurt before i would with a whole posse of bhamers or mtn guides or mounties..........

quote: Originally posted by Climzalot: Well done Mr. Layton. Quite a change in environments for you in a short time span. From Vegas, sandstone, and sunshine to Leavenworth, snow, and spindrift in a matter of days. Hardcore does not even begin to describe you. Nice job sir. Coley can i vomit with all the sunshine being blown here??

quote: Originally posted by Dru: just remember to place a line of bolts up every route you climb so i can easily determine what is still unclimbed to claim FIRST ASCENTS actually we rap bolted the whole thing 3 ft sqaure......we have named and graded all the routes....next stop is to actually send them......

quote: Originally posted by Dru: so is the nonwall a wall, spire, or what? thats over by the bridge creek wall.... go check it out....it is an adventure area....we shuld keep it that way............

quote: Originally posted by Szyjakowski: the top of the cobra EVEN WITH ALL THAT DAMN WIND!!!???

i went to a p-town pub club.......it was sooo much fun i puked on the way to my grandmother's wedding.....twice!!!! note to self pull off on the left hand shoulder while puking on the freeway.....

quote: Originally posted by jhamaker: Dwayner - this Busses thing. So, you do not approve of car pooling or other ways to reduce vehicle impact? a car with 4 climbers tramples less then a bus full of 30 people.... i think you missed the point............. almost all public land with people quotas limit at max 14..or 12 or something...does that mean you need to take it all the way?? a bus full of 30 people (or whatever their capacity) exceeds this quota in a bad way.........think repsect others as i would like the be repsected myself. do you want 30 people whom are questionable around you?? i think not...

how about it dont matter, just pick your trash up........

quote: Originally posted by viktor: If you use a huge ass sling on the tree for The Cube, prepare to toss them afterwards. That tree is oozing buckets of sap all around it. would that be from all the top roping that it has been used for???? i know last year in the valley the tool tried to shut down slack lining(read it is fun and the tool is agiast fun!!) , becuase of damage to the bark of trees....granted an enviromentally sound fix was found...thanks to tim brown jr and his apache ways.....

were up there that shit is way cool....dont hike there though kidz not worth it........

this stems from a couple posts from today....... it was a shock to see the old bus removed...but i think it is a good thing...it was an eyesore and a waste fo space in a space limited parking lot...if index keeps getting more popular, i think we will have to limit the amount of seatlites there on any given day....being from tacoma i am exempt.... also the new trail is a bigger i sore....i am not sure why they did this and have never heard answeer to my question about it....but if you do not agree with it, please do your part and cdover it up with the available brush and rocks...the old water course is a grandfathered trail that leaves little concern over additional impact to the area...unlike that mud ramp that is supposed to be the new trail.......keep the old out with the new........ also on my last few visits i have noticed more and more trash...do your part and clean it up.....i dont think it matters if you brought it or what it just needs to be cleaned up....this goes for all the crags.. also on the garbage note, while specialed and i were answering the booty call(stuck gear, not each other) over the weekend we found lasrge amount of trash and litter all over the place, we atargeted the learning cliffs....and i know that there were classes out there from a certain local outdoor club.....if i see that much trash again from a reconized group i will talk to local agencies about it.......

quote: Originally posted by tasmith513: "Alpine Select" by Kevin McLane has some great choices in it. Elaho publishing 2001. www.elaho.ca in washington we call this the answer with no attitude.....tom has listed the book that is THE book.... and drul....wack.com rulz....

I'LL PARTICPATE AND help out in anyway to keep this awesome cliff from being closed...!!!! just let me know!!! and good work to everyone who is putting in soo much effort to benefit all climbers....cheers!!!! and i'll buy the beer next time im up there.....

yes i was in lworth of over the weekend as well, outside of the icicle howl it ws quitre pleasent.... i too also noticed a bunch of different puzzling anchors setups througout the canyon.....like atleat 100ft of tat strewn about the cliffsides....some of it was tied on chockstones, other was just layting on the ground...i saw 100's of people who were capable of picking it up, but only saw was nice individual doing so.....bravo specialed, you re truly a warrior for the "tears of mother natures's dispair!!!!" salute!!!!! remember people if you see garage remove it....and do not put raps stations where they do not exist or belong........... too bad about your bolts on bruce's, i guess it is like it is in the mountains now...gotta come up with something....... p.s. to the individuals who believe that i have the desire or the engery to remove such installations, bite me!!!!! [ 04-08-2002: Message edited by: erik ]

quote: Originally posted by Eric taylor: Trask:Do you know if you can get a car to Barlow pass yet? You made it to Lake 22, which is a ways in on the mountain loop highway. We want to climb Monte Cristo Peak, but may have to wait a while for this snow to melt to get to Barlow pass parking lot. trask is hardcore and stops at nothing...he treads where he wants, when he wants..... trask is alpine!!!

quote: Originally posted by Off White: There's a crag in Tenino, about 12 miles South of Olympia. Sandstone, sport & toprope, up to 75 feet high. There's a couple 5.10's and then up from there. Private property. P-mail me if you need access info. in the past i heard about some rock out on the shores of skoocumchuck resivoir....ever been there???

c u there....we will be the loud ones crackin on all the hard 4th class stuff!!!!!!! special, beer me!!!!!