erik

as of right now i can attend, not all night, but i can make it....... just go to the normal place....the swiss, that wat the seattle-lites do not have a problem navagating the ghetto streets of tacoma....

chris what is not 'real' about climbing the w ridge of prussik??? granted the weather was not good and it soundslike you were dissapointed with the route, but man cannot you take anything else from that area....the natural beauty of it alone warrents many hikes back there with nothing but a water bottle and some snacks...... THINK POSITIVE!

we atayed at the apex mine a last summer...we elected stay slep outside the hanta virus testnig cabin....the amount of scat there was unbelieveable....... the hike into casthedral from chewuch is prett mellow with the only real threat is from the elev/. gain leaving the chewuch river up to the mine/cabin....granted our climbing trip was turned into a backpacking trip with climbing gear..... we hiked out in one day........ and mr goodtimes margarita's ruled

gary, i used a rack of them last weekend up in squamish. they seem to work fine. one thing to note is this summer i have pushed myself to make some substantial gains with my ability. number one reason why?! i quite worrying about crap like what cams are better or if my rope is dope!! i now concentrate soley on the climbing....it is a miracle!!! the more and more i think about it all, is that it does not matter which cam you use or own, they all will work. spend your money the way you feel you should. ihave yet to find the weight an issue with camalots. then again i try to spend my worries on other aspects of the climb....like the climb. the pro will come, you will place it wheter it be a 6lbs camalot or a 4oz tech friend. go with what your bank account allows.

i should say i was accross the valley climbing anouther objective. he also has some severe swelling in his brain.

my friend fell from just below the summit block into an east facing gully. my other friend heard him yell "oh shit" twice, heard some trundling and then nothing. he went up to his last spot and could not find him. after several minutes of searching he located him approx 200ft down the gully. upon reaching him, he performed first aid and attempted to stablize him. he then descended the mtn creating his own rappels and ran to the car. the resuce got underway shortly after 530pm, he fell around 130pm. he has not cranial fracturea, only a sever lacerations next to his temporal artery. when the resucers reached him, he was in hypothermia and his bleeding had stopped. he is now at harborview in a coma with brain swelling at most of the bones on side of his body broke. my friend is not sure what exactly caused him to fall, specluation is he either slipped or broke some rock. he was climbing unrpoed to the summit, though he was wearing his helmet at the time. when my friend got back to his house saturday night and told us what happend our worst nightmares came true.

i think i want to start a club called, "the lonely bitter liberals".... T.L.B.L. anyone up to join???

bp, when you were on the flycathr route what gear did you bring? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

bp, i like the boothy placed all over the northwall of the sews.....make me wonder why and why??? cannot direct aid be used to link the tasties??? who knows...have yet to do all the others first, still attempting that mess this summer you know....this weekend, next weekend and the weekend after that....i know your addiciton.... erik

a couple of years ago i got crooked thumb....it was kinda a climbing related thing......though she didn't talk to me for like a week afterwards!!!! sorry ole' boy had too!!!

bp, i got da same response....something about the e side of news haviing some of the worst rock in the group!>!>??!!!

terminal gravity does.

Annette lk trail is pretty nice...good little hike with nice worn track to follow......plus some cross country 'summits' to obtain after lunch. pratt lk- lotsa people nice hike. go from the trailhead further west then the one listed in the book. snow lks- lotsa more people good hike with good views. go swimming in snow lk and find my missing 6pack. also can attack mt snoq from snow lk shoulder after lunch dropping down the western face or cave ridge. dingford creek mid fork of snoq river. good hike up cool ass steep creek. sections of it have been boated. crazy fawks! taylor river road- lotsa people hike on old log road past eagle falls baby dingford creek falls. kinda boring, better with a bike.... um ask me more later i cant think anymore....

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chuck you rule!

yo pete, know you last post was addressed at me, well i certainly have no problem with anyone doing what they want. it is the inane billshit that flows from an unregulated uninformed twisted source that i find disparagging you know..... certainly let the debate flow freely, just keep the people whom have little to no knowledge of placing bolts, removing bolts, creating first ascents, placing pro and evaluting route finding to a minimum. these peolpe tend to speak from a limited scope, certainly they may have an opinion. but when they are soo tied up in trying to prove a point that has no bearing outside of their little locked down world and are unwilling to believe that they may not be right or have a clue to what they are acutlly talking about. then it gets a bot annoying. and to attempt to put personal vendettas against some person through avatars, because they are blocked in all other means of cuommunication is a childish attempt to get some attention. well i do not need to give my time or energy to these whiney people who believe that they are right or above the rest. i wish i could type out examples to this ignorance and self cretated cess pool of lonliness, but i cannot. plus the amount of shit talking/ bad mouthing again shows the childish demaenor of this 'adult' i have said enough....and this is stupid to me.... lets go climbing p.s. i am also all the things i have posted above, but always willing to accept facts over emotion and use those tools to fomulate what i beileve as a healthy understanding of subjects.

brock, start with sizes that you feel less secure with. slughtly larger and slightly smaller then hands. i am sure everyone has a preference on what cams to buy, but they all work. if money is an issue then concentrate on the finding deals or going with a less expensive brand. if not, go for what you think is the best cam for your money. one thing to note, is that some of the cheaper cams may not last as long/ durability issues. best= black diamond best deal= trango

good call ray, this is sooooooooo much damn rock in the icicle...peope who feel the need to hide "their""new" crags go right ahead. cuz there is plenty more, plus i like to hike and that damn drill is heavy....... *yawn* allison, so annoying, no funny hahaha!

Has anyone had any luck with this technique? I am looking for new ways to broaden my horizons, had heard once that if you cry enough someone else will do it for you. Discuss....

ray, i think it is irresponsible for you to give erronous beta like that...."some booze" wtf man.....bring the whole damn 5th............

fig newtons taste like shit and sorry sk the bulk ones taste even worse.....blah................

thanks rodeo.....got da same info and got da shoes on the way.......

anyone know which local stores sell 5.10 newtons????????????? danke!

and another thing trask, most of the time you are funny..... unlike poptart who just seems to be more annoying then i wish i could ever be.....

quote: Originally posted by sk: Good question... I had a two story playhouse that my dad built that hosted more than one grownup party... no arberist was needed though and what happend 9 months later???