erik

dwayner, do you like the orange sauce with your kayak rolls or the purple stuff?? i think the purple stuff is too bitter......

i didnt do shit mokey, i just posted the link... geez bio-science computer nerds sooo sensitive.

bone, does that mean the reticent is out this fall???

here ya go mike http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/album.pl?album=:recent

DATS my boym juan gettin out in the mountains withe hotties....i have learned so much, but need to learn so much more... cheers to you and the better 2/3 juan.....

i say you all should concern yourselves with yourselves...... this person you speak of may be just starting out and possibly overstated his abilities. but what good is it to publicly trash him??? we have all made mistakes, do you want someone to call you on yours and then drag your name through the mud.... i didn't think so thanks for being nice!

this thread is stupid. good bye!

i don't even know your mountie's dome is lil' buddy. it ain't mine to spray and if you want to read about the KTK's antics you will have to buy the up coming book, "snafflehounds, horsecock and the great sends!" order soon limited collectors edition!! p.s. redmank hahahahaha kidz.....................

lulam you and bp rock da dome!!!! august 1st flea dawg

hahahaha good one...they teach that to you in skool??? lil budy when the time comes you will understand where erik is coming from and going, until then you keep having fun....okay??

face climbing is for hotties in a sport tops only!!!

i dunno project cranking in the alpine sounds mor eimportant then gettin drunk with the kidz.............. have fun

dude, i am sooo glad you found my stick clip.... it fell out of my crash pad a couple weeks ago....when i was on a whirl wind tour of the area....soo many good boulders and potential sport crags out there!!! stupid snow made it hard to hike around in my flip flops!

uh, the squish p.c. was this past weekend and you all missed it. it is skaha's turn now!!!

how about this: WHO FUCKING CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PATHETIC ATTEMPT AT A TROLL POPTARTS TASTE LIKE SHIT ARE FILLED WITH SHIT AND ARE OVER PRICED FOR BEING SHIT.

off, just making a point. you are right though and you point out an excellent point. who should adminster the public lands?? i truley believe there is no definitive answer to this question. i do not disagree with the collecting of reasources from public lands. it is impossible to do so, mostly because we all wipe our asses and we all(most) live in lumbar strutuces and have metal products. but there are more efficent and enviromentally sound ways to do so. but when it comes down to it as with everything in america it is a monetary answer. this is proven to us with the permit systems and parking passes and user groups.(higlighted pefrctly by the st helens snowmobile sitmo) the states could possibly give a better local perspective on the use of public lands, but unfortuantly they are money mongers too. it is great to sit here and read these debates or read simialr debates in other places. the thing that gets me, is how BOTH sides are wrong. enviros and business. a compromise should be in order, but the selfishness of both groups is sickening. i think the best plan would be for the majority of actual users to tell enviros, the deforrest service and special interests to shut the fuck up and leave our land alone. i read allison exremist leftist remarks on the interpetation of the w.s. 64' and laugh to myself. fuck the trails, that shit was made by man and is as permanent an istallation as the shit houses they helo in there, as the signs the bolt to tress. if we are to truly have wiulderness then we need to keep the non-wilderness hardy people out of there. if your weak ass cannot climb over 57 trees or navaigate a non-trailed area then you deserve to die where you sit down and quit. it is very easy to sit here and type these remarks as it means very little. just as the wilderness act means very little. interpetastion is the key here. once we are dead and the next few generations come in, they will bitch at what we fucked up, and they will continue down the same path we are. americans and humans in general are leeches of the earth. wheter they work(ed) for ENRON or "volunteer" for greenpeace. just as everything humans touch the wilderness is tainted. there is no legacy there only potential business and interetpations to antiqueted laws. so instead of bitching(which is a specialty of mine and very easy to do) GO FUCKING TAKE CARE OF IT YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!

dox, is the nicest person on the planet...

fern, you rock my dome...keep crankin sista!!!

quote: Originally posted by allison: © A wilderness, in contrast with those areas where man and his own works dominate the landscape, is hereby recognized as an area where the earth and its community of life are untrammeled by man, where man himself is a visitor who does not remain. An area of wilderness is further defined to mean in this Act an area of undeveloped Federal land retaining its primeval character and influence, without permanent improvements or human habitation, which is protected and managed so as to preserve its natural conditions and which (1) generally appears to have been affected primarily by the forces of nature, with the imprint of man's work substantially unnoticeable[/url] i love the vagueness and hypocracy right here!! a good example. hetch hetchty reseviour. john muir died the day they started work on that project. sicking. how about seattle's own power project. diablo. or what about the glenn canyon dam? i guess those things blend within the wilderness areas, specially since they are guarded by machine guns and video cameras, just like the wilderness!!! god save larry the tool!! and the permit system and the fee demo project and dirty hippies!!!(for good meausre of course) i sat federal control over land is bah!!! also the constituion(which over rules the wilderness act) states the federal givernment will not hold land or control land, except for limited military use and day to day operations. so TECHNICALLY just like taxes, they are and should be open for debate. which i am not, because no neo-liberal has anything to say that can sway reality.

i would have to say that the back log in clearning and repairing trails this year is in direct relation to the forrest demo parking pass...has anyone else not figured this one out?? it is pretty blatlently abvious that that is the situation. i am sure you can call the ranger offices and make a complaint and you would hear something about having not enough money or workers, because of the lack of funding. they are trying to 'prove' to us that we need the parking money. it is bullshit. wilderness act is a great thing. though like most broad sweeping laws there is and will be many interpetations. i read on thing above saying that the wilderness is out heritage. WRONG it has nothing to do with americans, it is what belongs to the earth not us or the usfs or the nps or the wilderness society. we have the provalage the ability to travel there, that is all. to claim ownership or claim control over it, is selfish and assine.

zeno you are going to have to beat it out of him.... hey i still got your screws what your address again...my organizational skillz leave something to be desired. p.s. i see through texplorers snaffle abuse, so you can keep him!!

i knew my prayers to the alpine kitty would be answered!!!! we were running out of virgins down here in tacoma...all those um sacrafices....yeah...sacrafices had to be made to apease the alpine kitty... erik- a loyal and reasonable traditionalist at sub 25!!!

thanks for proving my point drul!! go rip that sheeit up!!! sounds like a f@#$in awesome time!!!! erik

also the success that climbing brings is short lived. being successful at work or with friends or other sports is just as meaningful and worth while. i would never solely sell my soul to climbing as i see that as self limiting. i have many friends who do not climb and i am glad. because i can only talk so much about climbing, before it gets boring...blah blah blah...crank this, crank this......steep, thin, wide....blah blah blah..... the thing with climbers that i have notices is that most of them share the same perspectives on things...great!!! but there is always more...i try to observe the world for all aspects and if i committed solely to climbing what would i lose in between?? more then i think.....or could even imagine..... i was hittin it pretty hard early in the year...crankin many days and pushing myself...it was great, but as the summer moves along and i find myself enjoying climbing, but i also find myself enjoying many other things too......but in many ways i find myself getting bored with it....i no ways does that mean i will quit or stop or really take a break, but i am scaling back...i see no harm in this...i can climb near my level off the couch and accomplish what i want.....so i have no complaints.....and i am having alot of fun in between , enjoying things that climbing in no way could ever give me...

bp, cheers on your colon punsishing feat!!