erik

sketch, have done this one a couple times....awesome route with decent rock.... the difficulties are not sustained....you can jam the crux ow very easily........the last .9 moves on the 5th(?) pitch does not exist..... the pitches are very short, i think maybe 100ft..i think last time we were up there we polished off that one and w face in like 4 or 5 hours total.... i would not bring more then a set of camalots to #4. have fun and be safe. [ 08-13-2002, 08:57 AM: Message edited by: erik ]

actullay greg, omegaman was once a prisoner at the spokane prison making biners and what not...though he came into good light with the warden and the ceo of op. i guess they all dated for awhile(speculative rumor) he is now out living his dreams spending the cold hard cash that omega steals from the prisoners from their slave labor....apprently he has quite an expense account as op steal so much money from the slaves, let along their souls and hearts, so the profit margin is through the roof....bah the chinese we have you beat in spokane!! i bet he wears fur and eats processed meat too!!!!

thanks for the back up dawg.....but i think i can handle it....cept for the spelling....i prolly need help with that!

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: quote:Originally posted by Dru: "He's training for Everest, silly" You can toprope Everest? I'm dialling Mountain Madness right now. Did the French finally grid bolt that choss-pile? Greg W greg, not the french, but a couple of respected pnw climbers did.....

another question along drul's line of questioning...why does he have a rack on his harness??? is he top roping practicing placing gear on an unprotectable slab???

i did the dishes this morning before work this morning... please note do not have specialed, grizzly, rasta and homegurl over for midnight bbq and expect them in their drunkend stupor to clean your house before they pass out....reason being is tha if you leave the mess till monday mornging your house is going to smell like the funk!!! blah!

quote: Originally posted by Dru: quote:Originally posted by Greg W: If Dan Larson could climb hard, this sounds like a TR he would write. Poser. Greg W Except that we didnt climb Rainier neither did he

quote: Originally posted by moonchild: That's what I was afraid of. I've been forewarned about the folks here (though the forewarning isn't necessary if one reads a few posts), which is why I asked. That's too bad. Oh well. Oh, and for your information Roger, while there may be the occasional climber on nwhikers.net, it's a HIKING site, not a rock climbing site. i would like to say that it takes all kinds. so why dont you find someone else to take you....hopefully not a drug addled adollescent with a death wish...i hear mike layton is pretty 'NORMAL'....... instead of attempting to find only the negatives in everything, you should search out the postives. people with condoning attitudes to do not get fat outside of normal society. that i because not one person is the same as the next. there are certainly like minded individuals that i am sure you can find if you search. but not seeing them here does not justify you traching what you don't like. tolerance is key...go buy some!!!

quote: Originally posted by sk: name band 77no tomorrow 88 I forget what 8 was for 9 's for a lost cause an 10's for everything everything you can all just piss off into the air, behind my back I can see them stare, they'll hurt me bad but I don't mind, they'll hurt me bad they do it all the time dats my good buddy gordo and the violent femmes!!! brong on the 80's trivia...i might have a chance drul is gone today!! erik

okay okay okay....i got one!!! one time i skipped work(oops mistake #1) and went to index to do some cranking with my homeboy wallstein. the weather was kinda sketched(oops mistake #2) but we went anyways, specially consdering i hadn't climbed in like 2 days(oops mistake #3). so we went up on zilla/2nd pitch/sloe chillins trio. i was leading up the sloe chillins and it started to rain!! doh! well needless to say i have to aid the crack to the top and the worst mistake i had made......i forgot my rain jacket....so i got wet. bummer dude.....i now know better....i always bring my rain jacket when the weather looks bad!!! knock on wood!

dfa, autoblock is a prusik or peice of cord which you wrap around the rope below the belay device and attach it to your harness(leg loop). it increases friction on the rope. it is a good thing to practice. if you get hit by ice or rock and get knocked unconsciouses then you wont lose control of your rap and die. you can also use it to stop raps and use both hands to free up stuck ropes or to feed the rope as your rap(as in the case of high winds) only makes sense to me....but then again who am i to help someone else out not making the same mistake twice. hope that helps!!!

iain, like whatever dude. i am fat, so i generate all the speed i need with or without the autoblock. then again you are sar, so you know!!!

juneriver, i dont think illiteracy has ever killed anyone. ignance has!! another thing my parents are very disppointed in their dumb son, all that college and i still can't type. thank gad i am my own supervisor!!! i'll let them know you think so as well! would you be interested in helping my friends and family particpate in an intervention for my in ability and complete refusal to use a spell checker!!! reading you retalitory post only proves all my statements correct. usually works that way. i dont bark at dags that bit harder. woof! take my posts the way you want them. p.s. i am still waiting for some thing dumb and dangerous to occur with myself. 10 years is along time to wait you know!!?? and again please keep the kissing to yourself. i am flatterd in sorts, but disgusted in others. be safe and have fun!

p.p.s you can retain my services for $150 a day. i will trasport myself to crag(i dont know how well you drive!!) i will als o provide meals for an additional $10 per person charge. ciao!

quote: Originally posted by Juneriver: quote:Originally posted by erik: [QBCAN YOU SAY AUTOBLOCK?? I KNOW I CAN! Hmmm... since we hadn't started climbing for the day yet... it would have been a little tricky getting the cord out of the pack.. Next time I'll just make sure to have you around for the fine instruction. Kiss it [/QB] dear ignorant unsafe climber, thanks for letting me know that you are not intrested in making your climbing safe. i realize that you are probably an expert. i shuld keep my mouth shut from here on out(well i actually doubt that). your good buddy, erik p.s. i keep to prussiks girth hitched to the haul loop on my harness. just like i always keep my belay device, locking biner, extra locking biner and nut tool. so i would not have to get into the back of my pack for cord. i als o make a point of always using an autoblock when i rappell. sorry you do not. perfect practice makes perfect. feel free to keep the kissing to yourself. i prefer respectable intelligent beautiful women!

quote: Originally posted by chucK: quote:Originally posted by erik: quote:Originally posted by Juneriver: ... Bad day at Vantage. Rapping off of some mesa .... CAN YOU SAY AUTOBLOCK?? I KNOW I CAN! HEY ERIK, YOU CONDESCENDING GOON, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT I COULD HAVE DONE TO PREVENT MY STUPID MISTAKE? DONT BY FOREGIN!

quote: Originally posted by Juneriver: Hate to admit this stuff... Bad day at Vantage. Rapping off of some mesa or something, I roll off the lip and get my hand flat smashed under the chains. Don't want to call for help but one hand is trapped under said chain and the other is holding the rap device... can't let go. After extricating myself quietly and painfully (yank!!)I'm not paying attention on the rap cause I'm wondering if my hand is broken.... then my shirt gets caught in the ATC. I thought that only happened in the Mounties textbooks. Try getting out of that with one hand! Just felt really stupid that whole day. CAN YOU SAY AUTOBLOCK?? I KNOW I CAN!

quote: Originally posted by Mr. Natural: Drunk gets up from the bar and goes into the mens room. A few minutes later there's a blood-curdling scream from inside. A few minutes later another scream. After the third scream the bartender goes to the door and yells, "Is everything ok in there?". The drunk yells out, "I'm trying to flush but every time I try, something reaches up a squeezes the hell out of my balls!!" The bartender goes in and says, "Ya damned fool, you're sitting on the mop bucket!!!!" the funniest part about that joke, is it is true....why do ya think they call him mr. natural!!!

i will slightly disagree with the ratings comments. first of all the as previously stated, they are subjective. also keep in mind tim, is weak and afraid to step out of the car most of the time. seriously though i have not felt that the .8's and .9's in lworth were any harder then other granite climbing places. ie: yose and index. compared to squamish yes. but in that case we are taking into account the exchange rate. everyone has listed many of the classics in the icicle. enough to keep you busy for a long time. sk for leading you can check out x/y crag and above that j/y crag has a couple cool routes. mr tremendous is cool and so is ski tracks crack and some .9 arete over that way.... erik

pete, don't let anyone know i am responding to your post about crashpads. i could never live down the abuse!! so what i have found in my many attepts to use crashpads is that they are cumbersome to carry, store and trasport. but once there they serve many excellent purposes!!! only 2 drawbacks that i could even think about the hinged as opposed to burrito. 1. is that they might not pack extra as well, since the hinge is more conformed. 2. landing on the hinged part might make the pad fold, resulting in your old bones to take a jarring. metal buckles are obviously better. i say get a fairly thick one, i mean you are going to buy one, might as well buy the big one. more options, you know!! high density foam on top and low density on bottom. i believe cordless is the industry standard, but have noticed quite few new companies are getting into the fray. your fatness, erik p.s. are you still too outta shape to go climbing with me?? i have purposefully stopped all types of healthful living to try and obtain the 'off the couch' status? let me know!

quote: Originally posted by sk: Hmmm, you have a point there. I guess for me the pluses out weigh the minuses. Must keep close comunity of women climbers to fill in when you: a) don't want to climb with a man c) don't want to climb with a man i hear you sk, i love my female climbing partners....prolly some of the best trips i have even taken was with females.... then again there is something about cranking the death dirt with the boys...then again i have female partners that want those leads too!!! cheers to women climbers....

krazy, sounds like you need to increase your partner base... i ask if you are attractive cause if you are that means you get all the ugly pitches....i am ugly so i get to lead all the beautiful ones...you know logic without logic....i think it works....but i dunno really know.....

i'll buy the beer no problemo i dont date climbers either.....they never seem to have their priorites straight and tend to be selfish with their time!!!

jk, i will hook you up with some info, but i gotta finnish some work first.... erik