erik

id second "sources of the river" also "undaunted courage" by steven ambrose

hey necro! does nelly do a new remix to that?? some of those lyrics sound familiar.

i disagree

exit 32 and go right off the exit and up the road for a bit easy to find

yeah! the canadain rockies

if you climbed the route, but didnt summit, is that climbing the route??

little si and exit 38 little si doesnt have a current guide book(rock climbing washington sucks ass!!!!!!!!!) though check out the ouget sound travellers guide. plus local areas benefit from the sale of this book!!!! exit 38 has a new super guide book out, there is also a website. do a google search. rattle snake cliff has some interesting routes...though it has been a couple years since i have climbed there..it is dirty and cool!!!

OOPS, I mean to put gregw on there...sorry dfa...didnt mean to come after you. i am sure all missed all sorts of important things while i was gone!!

Dear Mr. Ex-President Clinton: I recently saw a bumper sticker that said, "Thank me, I voted for Clinton-Gore." So, I sat down and reflected on that, and I am sending my "Thank you" for what you have done, specifically: 1. Thank you for introducing us to Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Monica Lewinsky, Dolly Kyle Browning, Kathleen Willey, and Juanita Broderick. Did I leave anyone out? 2. Thank you for teaching my 8 year old about oral sex. I had really planned to wait until they were older to discuss it with them, but now they know more about it than I did as a senior in college. 3. Thank you for showing us that sexual harassment in the work place (especially the White House) and on the job is OK, and all you have to know is what the meaning of "is" is. It really is great to know that certain sexual acts are not sex, and one person may have sex while the other one involved does NOT have sex. 4. Thank you for reintroducing the concept of impeachment to a new generation and demonstrating that the ridiculous plot of the movie "Wag the Dog" could be plausible after all. 5. Thanks for making Jimmy Carter look competent, Gerald Ford look graceful, Richard Nixon look honest, Lyndon Johnson look truthful, and John Kennedy look moral. 6. Thank you for the 73 House and Senate witnesses who have pled the 5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the country to avoid testifying about Democratic campaign fund raising. 7. Thank you, for the 19 charges, 8 convictions, and 4 imprisonments from the Whitewater "mess" and the 55 criminal charges and 32 criminal convictions (so far) in the other "Clinton" scandals. 8. Thanks also for reducing our military by half, "gutting" much of our foreign policy, and flying all over the world on "vacations" carefully disguised as necessary trips. 9. Thank you, also, for "finding" millions of dollars -- I really didn't need it in the first place, and I can't think of a more well deserving group of recipients for my hard-earned dollars than jet fuel for all of your globe-trotting. I understand you, the family and your cronies have logged in more time aboard Air Force One than any other administration. 10. Now that you've left the White House, thanks for the 140 pardons of convicted felons and indicted felons-in-exile. We will love to have them rejoin society. 11. Thanks also for removing the White House silverware. I'm sure that Laura Bush didn't like the pattern anyway. Also, enjoy the housewarming gifts you've received from your "friends." 12. Thanks to you and your staff in the West Wing of the White House for vandalizing and destroying government property on the way out. I also appreciate removing all of that excess weight (China, silverware, linen, towels, ash trays, soap, pens, magnetic compass, flight manuals, etc.) out of Air Force 1. The weight savings means burning less fuel, thus less tax dollars spent on jet fuel. Thank you! 13. And finally, please ensure that Hillary enjoys the $8 million dollar advance for her upcoming "tell-all" book and you, Bill, the $10 million advance for your memoirs. Who says crime doesn't pay! 14. The last and most important point - thank you for forcing Israel to let Mohammed Atta go free. Terrorist pilot Mohammed Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners." However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released. Thus Mohammed Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center. This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified. It was then censored in the US from all later reports. Why shouldn't Americans know the real truth? What a guy!! God bless America and THANK YOU (once again) for spending my taxes so wisely and frugally. Sincerely, A US Citizen PS. Please pass along a special thank you to Al Gore for "inventing" the Internet, without which I would not be able to send this wonderful factual e-mail. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you agree that the American public must be made aware of these facts, pass this on. AND THE REST OF THE STORY: Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a New York State Senator, now comes under the "Congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan," which means that even if she never gets reelected, she STILL receives her Congressional salary until she dies. (Would it not be nice if all Americans were pension eligible after only 4 years?) If Bill outlives her, he then inherits HER salary until HE dies. He is already getting his Presidential salary until he dies. If Hillary outlives Bill, she also gets HIS salary until she dies. Guess who pays for that? WE DO! It's common knowledge that in order for her to establish NY residency, they purchased a million dollar-plus house in upscale Chappaqua, New York. Makes sense. They are entitled to Secret Service protection for life. Still makes sense. When she runs for President, will you vote for her? WHAT ERIK THINKS?:? WHO CARES!!!

it can be...but in 2 years of using a rerverso, i have yet to find a sitmo to where it is an issue. it would be interesting to hear others cases where they have had trouble lowering their followers. look on the amga site and they have the "how too" or you can figure it out on your own.. i am not good at explaining things such as this...but i can show you!

CATBIRD i dont think i would want two people haging off of my harness.. yes you can use the atc for belaying two doubles. the benefit of the reverso et al. is the fact that it is auto locking. and i have not found it a problem having the device below me. since oyu are setting up the anchor you can set it up right. i state this with the intent that you set your achor accordingly to the situation. as far as slabs go...well i think the issue is rope surface area contacting the rock and not so much as with the device.

Staggered on a single 9mm or doubles? 2 of them..

i actually almost climb all my alpine routes with 3. we use eldelweiss 9mm and petzel reversos it is great to share the difficulties. have the two followers stager about 20ft

or morons who cannot read what the type and then refuse to listen to another perspective, cause they are right. and these same people also have to use abusive tactics in all forms on communication. wtf???

DFA's answer personifies perfectly the Democrats' answer to Bush. They don't know what to say, so they say shit. Thank you DFA for making my point. Call me when you have a real Party with real ideas, to embrace. trask, you mean only the repub's are out for personal gain and wealth?? i think you are a bit wrong there bucko. because they all seem to be out for personal gain and wealth. strokefest is what the state of the union address is. enjoy!

i definatly have two peer groups. my climbing friends understand both faucets of my life. whereas my non climbing friends only have a dim idea of what is really going on. one thing i try to do, atleast with my good non-climbing friends is to include them. i try to take all my friends out atleast once, so they can be exposed to new things. i look at it like this because i always like to try new things, and if i didn't i might be missing out on something that may have a significant impact on my life. but most of non-climbing friends have been and they all understand the jargon. i show them pics and my gear and try to explain it. people that i am just involved with in passing.. well i might make a reference to climbing, but unless they seem interested i dont go much further. that or i try to relate it to something that can and or do undersand.

CASHMERE MTN

Now, if I had said this, I would have been decried as a libertarian right wing extremist who should move to Idaho and become neighbors with Randy Weaver. That said, I agree Catbirdseat...It IS here and can get worse. Just wait for Pre-Crime to catch on - Minorty Report!!!!!! but wait greg...isnt this just part of homeland security?? and now you can calling out against the great gw bush...and his plan to make us all good kids??? the blashammy!!!!!!! (i love my spelling!)

NOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN

LACK OF RETURN SPRINGS KEEP THE FREE RIDE OUT OF THE KILLER STATUS Funny, I know people who take the springs out of their Titanals... I think you can put springs on the Freeride if you wanna. YOU CAN

LACK OF RETURN SPRINGS KEEP THE FREE RIDE OUT OF THE KILLER STATUS

He DOES type with a Hungarian accent. I SUDDENLY HAVE LESS RESPECT FOR TRASK.....

GARMONTS OR THE DENALIS

WERD TO THAT

you can lead it, you can solo it... i dont think the cams will blow...place em tight!!!