erik

shave it all off!!! then you can be bald!!! buy a new touk though are your brain will freeze!!!!

No, not whatever : History and consensus will show that bolt ladders are rated A0 and slotting nuts in pin scars would get a C rating. I agree with your opinion, however. link to history text please!! bolt ladders are a1 for fa'ers and clean for everyone else.... bolt ladders also should be kept in perfect condition as well, they are meant to link features and not to add to the route. now in what style the fa'er uses that is debatable.

cracked, how has the arrival of sport climbing threatend trad climbing?? i would love if more people sport climbed and didnt frequent the places i enjoy to go. but that is neither really here or there. i really find is hysterically funny how people feel the need to seperate themselves in the sport. trad vs bolts or whatever...i could care less. i look at sport climbing as a way to improve strength and conditioning for trad climbing, grated i rarely sport climb and that is possibly why i suck.... i used to share dwyaners stoic ideals of pure traditionalism and in most ways still do cry "respect the rock" but with rational thinking and a more borad view of reality, i have found that it is a equalibriam. certainly the apperance of bolts has made the sport more asseciable, but is that bad? yes with crowding issues(broad statement(including impact blah blah blah)), but from any other stand point no. i think it is selfish and out right a waste of time and effort to say one aspect of the sport is more worthy then any other. bolts have allowed me to use some amazing features and ascend some very intreguing and entertaing walls. and in topic, this weekend i was chatting it up with some non-climber spectators at the lower town and i queried them about the bolts and other impacts. they both state that the webbing was worse, and that the bolts mean little to them. places like exit 38, 32 and vantage might not be the best climbing, nor the best rock, but they serve a purpose and that purpose is recreation. and that is what climbing is, recreation. there are a few whom actually live by climbing, and they are lucky. though in some ways missing out on many other aspects of life. but who knows??? i think the people who talk the most shit about bolts are the ones, whom maybe have something lingering with them. they are the ones with the issue. but leave bolting in bolting area, follow the ethic(yes they do evolve) of an area. and climb in the best stlye that you know how too.... sport climbing forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 trad climbing forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! alpine climbing forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bouldering forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ice climbing forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i guess mtneering forever too!

SOME OF MY HOMIES WILL BE UP THERE, I WILL CONTACT THEM AND SEE IF ANOTHER SEXY BLONDE ALPINE GODDESS CAN BIVI THERE TOO!! YOU ARE A SEXY BLONDE ALPINE GODDESS, RIGHT??

CHUCK YES IT IS GOOD SOLO...YOU CAN WALK OFF TO THE WEST...THOUGH I AM LEARY OF GIVING YOU THAT ADVICE!!!!

try IAIN & F'INGBORED, or ERIK & CAPSLOCK TWO MORE WORDS IAIN bike & RIDE

MATTP THE BUSH HOUSE IS CLOSED. THEIR KITCHEN COLLAPSED!

TWO WORDS FOR IAIN: DFA & GROUPIE

SULTAN IS ALWAYS A DOWNER...FROM THE COPS TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT TO THE BAKERY.....

dwayner, so what is one to do in the case of dana's arch then?? a natural line that is/was being eatin up by pitons. what is a leader to do either free or aid? and do you advocate the halting in the advancement in the ability of free climbers???

I mostly only post at work...unless i have had a few too many!! actually i think the faq, thing is dumb. it stifles new ideas and maybe even keeps some from ever contributing to the thread. why should new posters not have the chance to shout out and spray!!!!! f@!#@# faq!! love erik

NEW SHIT ON SUNDAY THEN!!! XOXOXOXOXO

THERE ARE OTHER ROUTES OUT THERE BONE!!! YOU SHOULD TRY THEM!!

i liked when it was just called 5.9 A2... this mixed rating shit...just is another strokefest thing good work to the guys on pyramid.

hence the sybian remarks???

have you even done an a1 pitch?

EXACTLY!

when one chucks a gum nut into the blender, the frothy malted beverage that is produced is a sybian uh huh!!??? sure it is!!

dave, not to bash you or anything.... but fremont in my book is more of a stain on the side of my toilet.. center of the universe has to be some place cool... like the lodge lot down in th valley. the center of the universe would suck you in, if you got near. fremont, well it just exists. have a good day!!!

TIM, WHY DONT YOU TELL THE PUBLIC WHAT A SYBIAN IS........

well for all those nailing freaks.. one of the last lower town got it's (probably) first clean ascent. crazy jamie sent artifice on nasty cam hooks and beer! so does that mean, no one else can nail it right???

thanks everyone!! trask's ex wife is going to give me a ride!

See? SEE?! dfa, tell your wife to quit calling me...it's pissing off my neighbor's wife when she's here. further proof that DFA is woefully mistaken in thinking he is in the same league as trask THE ONLy people in the same leauge as trask are either dead or in jail!

dfa that is no excuse, i thought you could come up with more then that. i expect that outta trask, but the exhaluted dfa should and needs to come up with better crap then that!

you know dfa, after thinking about your little comment i wonder why a liberal like you would talk shit about my attempt in carpooling??