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someone's a little jaded Yes, I heard that same bullshit before. And then the bubble burst and they laid off 90% of the workers. If they really want to attract and keep more smart, talented people in engineering perhaps they should make, by increasing the pay flexibility and hours, engineering a profession that attracts smart talented people. It's simple market forces at work .

Damn - that sucks. Get better Porter! I must have just missed him at the UW rock

heh, aerospace, eh? remember 2001? talk to us in 5 years. you can't find "qualified" applicants? OMFG! I can't find infinite strength materials either! welcome to the real fucking world. Tell HR to deal with it. The next exec who is quoted saying that I'm going to kick in the yambag - especially if they've some "we only hire the top 5%" bullshit

yes, many blue collar machinists and tradesmen are better paid than engineers nice try.

Ahh yes - the tired rhetoric of all who do not agree are imbeciles. Enjoy your East coast paradise of economic growth

Try Americans grilled with Chimmichurri. Good if you can get over the preservatives.

whatever happened to D-dog?

you might investigate your bf's closet to see if he has a shirt saying "if you can read this the bitch fell off"

we have beer in the fridge. It hasn't moved in months

I don't disagree. What I will say is it's my belief that if you've got what it takes to be a golden engineer you can be succesful quite a few places - all of them with better pay, better flexibility, better advancement or better benefits (in or out of work) than engineering.

with caffeine so you can work late/long hours. mmmm Mountain Dew and Jolt! oh yes cog in the wheel am I.

No, Engineering and High Tech work will still be here. Employment for anyone over 45 won't be. I've seen enough age discrimnation to know that high tech hates anyone over 40 and with a family. On the flip side of that I'm young and single so they assume I'm a great hire who's willing to workhard to earn them their millions ~80% of my graduating glass that went to work in industry was laid off within 2 years. I've worked through or been canned in ~dozen layoffs, worked through 1 SEC enquiry, 3 deposed CEOs, one corrupt founder, one bitchy owner, one corrupt CTO, more than one crony capitalism buyout, and more!

hahha they give us free sugary drinks to fatten us up in our vealpens

How much is Mike getting in licensing for the jacket?

death rides a pale horse

That's all well and good but requires you to be rosy and optimistic about the continued viability of such employers in America. I'm not. To get greater productivity out of the American worker will require longer hours. Sad to say, but it's true. I'd say the 8hour a day engineering jobs are worse - the works boring and the industry is going nowhere. If they want alot out of you they have goals and are going someplace.

Hell no, I'll own him with 36 more payments to Rent-A-Center unless of course I decide to upgrade.

I've been to one of those except it was with significant others, not clothing. Way more fun that way. Did you manage to trade your goat for a nice ewe? I ended up with a nice porter. I got screwed sickie

I've been to one of those except it was with significant others, not clothing. Way more fun that way.

Your master said you were rent to own. Another 3 years and you'll be mine!

Fuck that, I'm the all-singing all-dancing crap of the world.

Yes, John sums it up quite well.

more of a licker really

heavy flow day? Carl, you suck for not coming to the Lake City Pub Club last night. I suck for not realizing there was one until 7am this morning!

I was living in exile and co-ordinating the spray amongst my minions before I made my exalted sealed train return?