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You can get NF sale figures here. NF volume figures Keep in mind that volume sold is far different from volume cut. Region 6 is the Pacific Northwest, but some of these forests are east side and not manageed under the Northwest Forest Plan.

Geek - Where did you get these facts? 1. The Forest Service got out 2 billion board feet last year. How much of that was in the PNW? 2. Every single timber sale since the NWFP has been litigated. I think its wrong to discourage people from working with the local districts on logging and old-growth protections. I've seen it done on both the Siskiyou and the Gifford Pinchot, and it can work if done right. My congressional delegation, democrats included, has screwed us every step of the way for the past couple years.

Sierra Trading Post has some excellent prices on BD skis including the cross bows and miras. I got fahqued, cause I just bought them from T-P, but maybe someone else can save some cash.

Redoubt are you from summitpost.com?

The Seattle crew is scary. Don't you people like each other? not

amen to that. quit 5 years ago (for the third time), and it still eats away at me. they'll always be one more temptation to resist (and to give into ).

I don't really know what the difference is ... I thought you came up with those rules. In reality, though, no individual is profiting off a slide show thrown by a non-profit. With outfitters, gear shops, etc., most of those shows are acutally promotional events for some company. The clubs typically aren't running these events as huge money makers. I think the distinciton still makes sense and the clubs (and Lowell) should be posting slide shows here for the community.

That's cool, but the Mazamas is a non-profit and I would hope that you would allow them to post their slide shows here, becaue I would like to know about them.

I'm pretty sure this is a Mazamas event.

DFAs a jackass.

sunflower seed, budweiser and herb ... 4 hours per day. you won't remember what a cigarette is.

jk - maybe it was the hangover that moved ya and not the ya ya.

Thikin of going to White Pass tomorrow. Anybody up there today?

Maybe we should just start clearcutting right now to save the forest.

This looks like complete shit.

That's hilarious. That sounds EXACTLY like my first ski experinces in the mid-70s when I lived in Redmond. My folks would take me up to Snoq. in the rain and make me walk up the hill. I hated it then, but I guess it paid off.

Nice article. You all are a complete bunch of wankers. I like the idea of highlighting the pub club and rope up. Maybe also develop the personality of one or two of the posters in greater detail. A local rag like Off Piste may be interested. The editor's a good guy.

A good point but climbing in tele boots with a hinged toe is a lot different from climbing in an AT boot.

I've got the Garmont GSMs and use the BD Sabretooth with good results.

New snow ! WOO HOO.

Vaclav Havel's signature on that passage has done more to convince me of war than any war mongering president.

I thought Locke's speach on his grandfather showed a much better connection to our domestic issues than GW could ever demonstrate. "I remember back in the day when my father was trying to pull us by our bootstraps, selling wepons to Osama bin Laden and Afghani rebels through the Carlyle Group. We made it, and now I'm dictat ... uhhh ... President. That's the American dream!"

Last sumnmer I got a pair of Garmont Stickyfingers or something like that. Kristin just got a very similar pair at Next Adventure for $60. They rock.

This quote is taken from the Blue Ribbon Coalition Web Site: In areas, such as Wilderness and developed sites where funding is inadequate to maintain recreation experiences, and funding is not available from other user-supported programs, we support the implementation of user fees, subject to the following: * Fees should be for a specific facility or discrete physical area, not just access to public land in general. * Fees should be returned to the area from which they are collected. * Distribution of funds to various projects should be done with full public involvement. The Blue Ribbon Coalition is one of the leading groups advocating for ORV interests. It appears that they support user fees. As for this whole discourse on arogance and climbers, I have to respectfully disagree with the argument that climbers and hikers are more arogant than the rest of the backcountry users. That argument holds little more weight than the typical conservative argument that liberals all want to impose their values on others, while the conservatives want to tell everyone how government should be run. The hikers and climbers are not the only arogant or most arogant user groups. The ORV'ers, snowmobilers, horseback riders, mountainbike riders, hunter, fishermen etc. all display levels of arrogance, and they ain't all liberals. I think there should be two guiding principles behind manging competing user groups: 1. Manage to minimize environmental impacts; and 2. Manage to protect the integrity of the experience for all user groups.