AlpineK

No I'm voting for Kerry. I don't agree with any of your points. Bush is stupid, he hates the environment, and his thinking is based on his born again religious doctrine which says the end of the world in near. I hear you're just a big act Martlet, and in reality you voted for Clinton.

His speaking skills may just be a symptom of his problem. Bush may surround himself with people someone has told him are smart, but a commander in chief has to be able to weigh all the oppinions of these, "smart," people and come up with a decision. No matter how smart his cabinet is Bush has to be smart enough to make the best decision. In my view Bush is lacking.

Fascinating news! Can you believe it Fairweather hates John Kerry. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you. I'm still voting for the guy. As far as I can tell all potiticians have at least some sleaze factor. I view voting like going to the dealership looking for a car...you just know you're going to get jacked arround, but you do it anyway.

huh. That's disappointing. Maybe TDI is the the next big thing.

You've only been banned half as much as you deserve.

Hi Don

You've got a long way to go.

Everybody puts bbq sauce on both meat and poultry. Why is there an aversion to steak sauce on chicken?

I've never tried steaksauce on chicken...something to think about.

I love steaksauce. A1 on hashbrowns...yummy

There ya go Martlet...of course you could have just looked at this post, but then again I guess you expected me to post it. Sorry I'm busy working. In fact I'm sorry I've wasted my time on you. I think from now on I'll only talk about you in the mod forum.

No he's smart enough to know you aren't worth his time. How is it that you think everyone agrees with you when nobody's come to your defence? You remind me a lot of this Tomcat guy...

I read your post and all you did was make a statement you didn't disprove anything. As to CrazyJZ you didn't hand him his ass; just because someone doesn't have time to waste on a bb doesn't make you right.

Abuse was going on for months if not over a year. That's a fact you can take to the bank.

You haven't proved anything anyone here has said is wrong. All you've said is that you disagree and that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a, "Moonbat." Why is it that you're arguing with the liberals and none of the other conservatives are backing you up? I'll tell you why...you're a punk ass. Even Cracked has told you to mellow out. If you'd like to learn how to be respected and conservative try reading some of JayB's or Peter Puget's posts.

So what you're saying is that 3 days after CBS released photos of prisoner abuse Rumpy came clean. How does that square with Rumpy knowing about abuse in January and waiting months to tell the president. How does that square with the Red Cross complaining about prisoner abuse over a year ago? Why did GW say that he wasn't informed soon enough about the situation? I'm not expecting a real answer from you, but I thought I'd bring these points up.

Martlet just because you have the time and energy to post in spray does not mean that you are right...all it means is that you're posting a lot. You haven't won any arguments or convinced anyone that you have the correct view on things. In fact I think you've managed to anoy some of those who would back you otherwise. I predict you'll burn out soon; either that or your boss will chew you out for wasting time.

You know as much as anyone could possibly know with their head stuck so far up their ass that they can see their stomach.

Martlet sure has a lot of oppinions for a guy with 28 posts.

Yep the Saudis are a fucked up bunch. However we went over there to bring freedom and democracy to those guys. It stands to reason that we've got to be pure as the new driven snow when it comes to our behavior. It's not good enough to say that those guys are worse than we are...there should be nothing to compare if we're not to be seen as hypocrits.

Those thing were originally called jet sticks; they came out in the 70's so folks could stiffen up their leather alpine ski boots.

Hey Martlet. You should come work for me for a couple days if you want to really learn what hard work is. I'm sure after a brief stint you'll be glad to go back to your cubicle. As to my earlier point. Let me make it clear that I do think that those soldiers in the photos deserve some kind of punishment, however I believe that they didn't just start doing all this in a vacuum. As wirlwind stated there are ways to get folks to do things that they would not otherwise do. We all like to think that we're immune to manipulation however nobody is. Those soldiers are guilty of something, but I'm sure that their commanding officers bare some responsibility. I would not be supprised if some of the higher ups didn't bare the prime responsibility. As to Rumpy. He stated earlier in the conflict that many of our prisoners taken in Iraq and Afganistan did not merit prisoner of war status under the Geneva convention; also he failed to inform other members of the government as to the situation. Because of his actions abuse went on for longer than it should and quite likely his public attitude gave some people the idea that this kind of behavior was acceptable. Even if nothing can be dirrectly pinned on Rumpy I still feel it's his responsibility to resign. All this happened on his watch, and our government now desperately needs to do something major to show the Arab world that we really take this matter very seriously. I hope he does the right thing.

Hey asshole...somebody fucked up. In reality it's never the folks lowest on the totem pole that are responsible. Some generals and maybe even Rumpy himself need to get fired.

He's got a deal with the Saudis...the price of gas will drop in September.