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Jap Gardens (to 1st chains. I hear it is good after that too.. ) Sagittarius to 2nd chains (ringing flake) Princely Ambitions Roger's Corner The Lizard (gotta love butt lips chimney!) Zoom Toxic Shock (although I think opposite of Eriks ratings- but it's good either way) Godzilla Private Idaho has a couple or three good cracks..

I served nearly 7 years active duty.. I did not buy anything from Canada.

I use the orange gloves from Esso to drytool in. You know the ones with the sticky rubber

Maybe not the worst but a huff and puff off the beaten path is Toketie Creek drainage............ Check it out!

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Exactly what I am getting at is in RodChester's last words. If you are not on some grand expedition or facing gruesome weather than it wont matter...

They should have indicated: Warning! If this product is used in any Mounty class or objective you will certainly die!

Good for you Marcus..

Jman, Most of this stuff does not matter to me or most people I climb with. I just wear whatever I have available. I have a smartwool shirt and a driclime shirt and some other shirts. They are shirts, nothing more if you ask me. If you sweat you get wet. I dont believe or even think about that stuff when I am climbing.

Nothing is closed unless they catch you.

Yep due to my having to be here with you on the internet.

I think the whole range argument\marketing is funny. It convinces folks well! I run it out tmore in the mtns.........

Get rid of the cheater\stick clip I agree with PP on the argument he states......... I am the uli chicken......

Nothing wrong with some KR white trash music. Mountain goats are wusses. I climb with a 6 pack in my gut at all times. and who said I was not part of the redneck crowd. Wham and Duran Duran are my favs.

http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=18&t=000078Here is a recent discussion. Just free solo it then you dont need the pro..

Jake My thoughts-Surf the gear critic. Then go out and by some Metolius aliens and or DMM cams. When you get to 3.5 " range go for the Camps soo light soo cheap and soo not used as much...

Re Camp Hazard and Kautz:Camp Hazard can be hazardous if it is warm..... If this is the case dig a bivy spot on the Turtle snofield's left side or simply camp at the base of it if you want. It's an ok route to avoid the masses.

I want to shoot these beasts off the crags... They are not aggressive to me just not scared of humans. Which is a major source of salt and food....

I would keep using those tricams they got you this far

The only times I climbed at the Country I was in pink spandex with flowers around my neck.

Bug, It is true if you spray here too long your ass might get too fat. There is no denying it we all know it

Erik you should forget about that one and go climb Only the Lonely. Stellar