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http://www.bettybowers.com/

http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm

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you are absolutely right. I'll go away now. [This message has been edited by Alex (edited 04-12-2001).]

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Yes, it is a simple physics problem. I do not know the equation, but here are some conversion factors to start you off: 1 pound force = 4.45 newtons 1 newton = 0.225 pounds force 1 kilonewton = 225 pounds force You would also have to calculate acceleration due to gravity, and also how much energy is absorbed due to rope stretch. One key component is how much rope is actually payed out at the time of a fall, and what is the rope elongation? I remember Petzl publishing some pretty detailed information on this in of of their catalogues. Alex

Greg, in my experience you can do one of three things: 1) donate to politically vocal lobbies 2) donate to behind-the-scenes movers 3) donate to radical groups All three depend on your personal agenda. Examples of all three include: 1) Wilderness Society, Sierra Club, various PIRGs, Greenpeace 2) The Nature Conservancy 3) Sea Shepards, EarthFirst, and the like In my experience, the Nature Conservancy has always been the most professional, least invasive outfit, but they are also not nearly as powerful a political lobby as some of the others, and will not have as great an effect on the Bush budget. [This message has been edited by Alex (edited 04-12-2001).]

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pete, http://www.google.com/ type in "Ptarmigan Traverse" I found lots of relevant TR's and hits

As of Sunday, the road is plowed past 8-mile CG. Mountaineers Creek gate is closed. There is no snow on the southerly sides of the Icicle, there is alot of snow on the northerly sides - but that said, looked like SCW was dry. The rock on most other Icicle domes was dry.

Ade, I'm not sure how often Mitch reads, so here is the description he sent me. Requiem will be one of the many routes featured in our forthcoming guidebook to Washington State Ice Climbing... Cheers, Alex Requiem for the Post-Modern World - WI 5+ R/X Length: 150' First ascent: Mitch Merriman, Alec Gibbons 1/27/97 Approach: Drive north from Wenatchee on Hwy 97A and park one mile S. of Rocky Reach Dam. Route: 150' of steep, thin, technical climbing and difficult protection. On the first ascent, substantial portions involved climbing on small mushrooms/cauliflower ears plastered onto rotten rock. Very cool. If using a 50m rope, you must belay very high and risk falling ice or climb the route in two pitches, belaying in the cave 3/4 of the way up the route. Descent: Walk off to the right. [This message has been edited by Alex (edited 03-27-2001).]

I find it disturbing that people flame even when helpful information is being offered. I find it disturbing that others would in any way tolerate this behavior. No thanks, so long. Alex

The earliest time to go will depend on how much time you have. For most climbers it is when White River opens, which in some years is as early as Memorial Day weekend, and some years is into July. This is the std. starting point for most attempts on Lib Ridge, and allows fast times as the approach trail is well broken, the traverse across the Winthrop and Curtis ridge straightforeward. Otherwise, the approach is from the (much lower in elevation) Ipsut Creek entrance, which adds a good day to the approach and half day to the descent. I have done both approaches, White River is by *far* the more desirable, in my opinion. However Lib Ridge in early season (like...now) can be very enjoyable and safe, and you may choose to go from Ipsut Creek. Best bet is to call the park and find out when White River is scheduled to open.

looks like I am going "skiing"!

Hi, I have some limited experience with Wild Things packs and have what I believe is one of the best-designed alpine packs around, the Trango Alpine. It is the right size, climbs well, and is well made. Unfortunately, it is not manufactured anymore, but it serves as a great example of a perfectly sized and designed alpine pack. Its features, specifically: * 2 ice axe loops, tubes are overkill imo. * thin removable foam pad. This is a useful pad sitting on snow or cooking or for legs when sleeping, so now I only carry a 3/4 length pad in addition and use this backpad foamy for my legs when sleeping on snow. * its size is perfect for 2-3 day trips in the summer, including large rock rack and ropes, and long days ice climbing in the winter or even a light overnight in the winter. I routinely carry a Bibler, ultralight sleeping bag, stove, full complement of technical gear comfortably in this pack. * slightly padded hipbelt. Nothing like a Dana, but not just 2 inch webbing either. The hipbelt features a way to add gear loops. * ski slots. * light colored body to make finding something inside the pack during the day actually possible When looking for the perfect alpine pack, I believe this pack can serve as a good benchmark. Similar packs include the Cold Cold World Packs, Wild Things packs, and offerings by other random manufacturers.

this is basically unsolicited junk mail. The second to last link, http://www.yourmailinglistprovider.com/unsubscribe.php?ffme is what you would click on to "unsubscribe" Alex

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..and we get...?

looking at this website, it seems like the road may actually be open by this weekend..?? I might "go skiing" just to check it out... Alex

of course, should the road close, you could always use a mountain bike

Single is useful if cost is an issue, you prefer privacy, your buddy already has a ledge, or what have you. Double is lighter, but is actually smaller in sq ft per person. They are a little harder to set up, too as the whole thing is a lot wider than a single. A real nice addition is to get a tent pole and use it as a hoop lengthwise inside the fly, to keep the fly from sagging in on you. I like the A5 double with expedition fly. Alex

Baltimore, you'll get over it eventually.. Alex