Doug

Not counting autosigs, anyone want to venture a guess at ho long it will be before someone starts at thread on when the first FRESHIES will fall?

There was some sort of relay or ultra-marathon along the PCT from Stevens to Snoqualmie about 2 -3 years ago. I don't know who put it together. I do remember that one of the participants was unaccounted for for a period of 12 or so hours and the organizers were a little freaked out about it. I'll see if I can dug up any information on it.

It was an awesome time! I was on the team that Paul runs with and was the lucky son of a bitch that got to jump in the lake at the finish. Apparently, there was some female topless running going on a few teams behind us! I'm surprised that Paul wasn't promoting the Beezly Hill run in Ephrata.

[/qb] Dude your not try'in to start shit are you? I like that If I was trying to start shit, these guys would have been TNF Sponsored Climbers lost on their way to the Muir Hut (not to worry, they did have a cell phone and plenty of HC) where they planned on indulging in copious quantities of da kine prior to going out and grid bolting every conceivable rock on every mountain in the Pacific North West. I was just trying to get caught up on the latest jargon and it's proper usage.

So does thi mean that they "Pink Pointed" Mt. Si trail? WHOOOPS! Thread Creep!!!! Maybe they were looking for a place to do some "Brown * Pointing", nudge nudge, wink wink!

Shit, how can you even stand to be on this board with all of the side-splitting laughter!

Maybe Ken Schram can pick this up and rune with it?!?!?

No one mentioned Mt. Dickerman. I also second Mailbox & Tenneriffe.

Anyone up there this past weekend? From Snow Lakes, where do you begin running into snow? Heading up on Thursday, and trail beta appreciated.

quote: Originally posted by Colin: " Excuse my ignorance, but what are stock bikers? not stock bikers. stock. as in livestock. llamas, horses, mules. ellensburg climber bivi partners.

quote: Originally posted by Jason Martin: The way that they train their club members is to have them go through a one year course. At the end of a year those same participants are required to "teach." I believe that this is the root of the problem. Jason Actually, just because one graduates from the basic course does not automatically make one an instructor. There is no "requirement" to teach for basic grads. If a basic grad decides to tackle the intermediate course, then yes they are required to teach once at each of the basic field trips. And all basic grads are invited to contribute back to the club by volunteering to teach. There is some limited weeding out of potential instructors, and "new" instructors are supposed to be paired with someone of more experience the first time or 2. That being said, I've had both frustrating and relatively good experience with the Mounties.

quote: Originally posted by Jason Martin: The way that they train their club members is to have them go through a one year course. At the end of a year those same participants are required to "teach." I believe that this is the root of the problem. Jason Actually, just because one graduates from the basic course does not automatically make one an instructor. There is no "requirement" to teach for basic grads. If a basic grad decides to tackle the intermediate course, then yes they are required to teach once at each of the basic field trips. And all basic grads are invited to contribute back to the club by volunteering to teach. There is some limited weeding out of potential instructors, and "new" instructors are supposed to be paired with someone of more experience the first time or 2. That being said, I've had both frustrating and relatively good experience with the Mounties.

Jules, You're not just doing this for attention, are you? I would love to see REI get serious about being a respected leader in climbing gear. As hard as it may be to accomplish, REI needs to a) hire knowledgeable people to work in all departments. This phenomena is not unique to REI. Been to Home Depot or Lowes's lately?b) Do a better job stocking inventory in every department. The last 3 times I've been to the flagship store, I've walked out empty handed because they didn't have the simple things I came to buy (fuel cannister, LED bulb for my petzl zoom, etc.c) Do a better job of weeding out the weenies. A year or so ago, I went to the service counter and the person working there seemed to be very put off by having to interrupt a personal phone call to ask if I needed help. If REI's looking for a place to solicit opinion's, I think they've come t the right place!

Jules, You're not just doing this for attention, are you? I would love to see REI get serious about being a respected leader in climbing gear. As hard as it may be to accomplish, REI needs to a) hire knowledgeable people to work in all departments. This phenomena is not unique to REI. Been to Home Depot or Lowes's lately?b) Do a better job stocking inventory in every department. The last 3 times I've been to the flagship store, I've walked out empty handed because they didn't have the simple things I came to buy (fuel cannister, LED bulb for my petzl zoom, etc.c) Do a better job of weeding out the weenies. A year or so ago, I went to the service counter and the person working there seemed to be very put off by having to interrupt a personal phone call to ask if I needed help. If REI's looking for a place to solicit opinion's, I think they've come t the right place!

An empty gun holster on the front seat is also a great deterrent.....

THE QUARTERA dad walks into a market followed by his ten-year-old son.The kid is spinning a quarter in the air and catching it between his teeth. As they walk through the market someone bumps into the boy at just the wrong moment and the coin goes straight into his mouth and lodges in his throat. He immediately starts choking, going blue in the face, and Dad starts panicking, shouting for help. A well dressed middle-aged, moderately attractive but serious woman in a blue business suit is sitting at a coffee bar in the market reading hernewspaper and sipping a cup of coffee. At the sound of the commotion, she looks up, puts her coffee cup down on the saucer, neatly folds her newspaper and places it on the counter. Then she gets up from her seat and makes her unhurried way across the market. Reaching the boy, the woman carefully takes hold of the boy's testicles and squeezes gently at first and then ever more firmly. After a few seconds the boy convulses violently and coughs up the quarter, which the woman deftly catches in herfree hand. Releasing the boy, the woman hands the coin to the father and walks back to her seat in the coffee bar without saying a word. As soon ashe is sure that his son has suffered no lasting ill-effects, the father rushes over to the woman and starts effusively thanking her saying, "I've never seen anybody do anything like that before-it was fantastic. Are you a doctor?" "Good heavens, no," the woman replies. "I am a Divorce Attorney."

I highly recommend this climb. It is of similar difficulty to the Tooth, but the alpine ambience of this glaciated area make the climb a forgotten classic (I'm betting we'll see this in Nelson's Cascade Select Vol. 5). Yup. He and Potterfield can just cut and paste Peter Potterfield's last experience on Chimney in to the guide.

No Toes, It didn't look like he was set up to make shoes. Try calling Ramuta's Shoe Service in Seattle, he may be able to point you in the right direction.

I was there as well. The responses to this thread were mostly on the mark as to the nature of the meeting. Most of the local guide services were well represented, and it does appear that they really do want a slice of the pie in guiding on the mountain. One impediment may be that the park superintendent does have the final say in the prospectus that is issued to solicit bids for the next concession contract. He can also just give it to the incumbent at his own disgression. While I support a minimum guide presence on the mountain, I'm also in support of RMI (or any single source for that matter) of having a bit of competition. I was impressed with the quality of statements and testimonials given by local climbers regarding the commercial use plan for the park. The overridng message seemed to be "keep it as undeveloped as possible". Where the crowd lacked in quantity, it made up for it in quality. I'd like to see the Park hold a meeting with the local guide services to solicit their input regarding the feasablilty of "slicing the pie", and to solicit their solutions to it. I would guess that their main bitch right now is that RMI has the concession.

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: I'm in Norway right now and I'm drunk....that's all.aloha, Dwayner Dwayner, Are you sure you didn't take LSD and Lutefisk and end up on a bad trip to Ballard?

I've been taking 1500mg of Glucosamine with Chondroitin a day for about 4 years. I've had artroscopic surgery for torn meniscus on each knee, 1 10 years ago, the other 4 years ago. I started taking it shortly after the second surgery. My results have been good. I believe my joints overall are in better condition now than they wer 4 years ago. My MD even believes that there are benefit from it.

A few months ago I asked for a recommendation for someone who might be able to tweak my boots to get them to fit better. A business called Custom Boot Fitters run by a guy named Jim Mates was recommended. I finally went to see him. I think he fixed me up, was very fast, very nice guy to b.s. with and his prices were very reasonable. He specializes in Ski Boots, Hiking Boots & In-Line Skates. Consider this an endorsement for him: Custom Boot Service6500 4th Ave. NWSeattle, WA 98117 (206) 297-9298 As an added bonus, you get to go to Ballard to see him!

And the guy was a skier making his second run down the hill that day. Telemarker for those who may care.

There seem to be an abundance of deals on the internet. One that I've used a couple of times is Northern Mountain Supply http://www.northernmountain.com They have a section called "Killer Deals" that sometimes are. I've bought a couple of things from them for good prices. Customer service seems to be good as well. I've bought a few things at Second Bounce/Second ascent. If you hit it right there are some good deals there as well. One of the underlying problems in this area seems to be that anyone that new shop that comes along has a hard time competing with some of the bigger guys. Especially when the bigger guys have distributors and manufacturers sign no-compete agreements within a certain radius. I've heard rumours that is what drove Wilderness Sports out of business.

WHOOO HOOOO!!!!!!! Go Jimmy Go!!!!!!!!!