Doug

The problem is that the ultra conservatives that the republican party panders to are very passionate about the anti-gay agenda. If they lose interest in this, they lose a major portion of their base. Not that they'd swing liberal, there just wouldn't be busloads of bible belters going to the polling places to keep their agenda alive.

Things are getting so bad that Evangelical White House Advisers are turning to gay sex and drugs! Boy I really envy those holier than thou morals!

I did mis-speak. I have always referred to that piece sewn into both leg loops as the belay loop. When I tie in, I tie through both that and the waistband. When I belay or rappel, my biner goes through both. Here is what BD's site says about the Alpine Bod: " When tying the climbing rope to your harness, always tie it to the waistbelt tie-in loop and leg loop cross piece correctly. When using belay and rappel devices, they should only be attached to the belay loop. " Intersting that the Alpine Bod doesn't appear to have a Belay Loop.

I just checked the BD website. I did not know that the Bod now comes with an official belay loop. The alpine bod is still the same old configuration. The bod instructions for use say only tie in through the belay loop; for the alpine bod it say use the leg crosspiece and the waist belt. Best advice? Follow the manufacturers instructions and replce worn equipment.

I've used a BD Bod Harness for years and that's how that one is designed,locking pear biner through the belay loop and waist belt.

How the hell can any pics compete w/Larch? Anyhow, 2 weeks ago on the way to Kaleetan: /Users/doughutton/Desktop/281895409_788d8e7eb5.jpg

Anyone know anyone who was climbing Garfield this weekend?

One of the guys filming it is Marc Beverly from Albuquerqe. PM me and I'll put you in contact with him. I saw the results this past june and it was interesting.

One of the guys filmimg it is Marc Beverly from Albuquerqe. PM me and I'll put you in contact with him. I saw the results this past june and it was interesting.

Hey! Leave Lynnwood out of this!!

No, it appears that Seattle will annex Aberdeen, as well as a whole bunch of other Real Estate. Getting Aberdeen gives Seattle a "Womb to Tomb" monopoly on the Kurt Cobain legacy, eh?

If you want pure redneck look no further (actually, you couldn't) than the little burg of Selleck that is east of Ravensdale. I looked at buying a house out there about 15 years ago and someone who knew the area asked if I had approached any of the locals and asked if it's be o.k. if I moved there. It did look rather "Deliverenceish"

Climb: Goat Rocks - Mt. Curtis Gilbert- Date of Climb: 8/20/2006 Trip Report: Pretty straight forward trip. We started at the Snowgrass Flats TH, took the bypass on Trail 97 and hit the PCT to Cispus Basin. Camp sites weren't scarce, but not plentiful either. We set up camp on a shelf at approx. 6,400'. Nice afternoon of lounging around and in the early evening we wathched the goats frolicking above us. Sunday morning we left camp at about 8:00 and ascended to Cispus pass where we followed a boot path to the first ascent gulley. From there is was a combination of ascending scree and crossing gulleys (5 I believe) until we came out to the summit ridge. When we arrived a the pass there was a herd of about 40 or so goats heading up the route. Luckily, they left plent of organic cairns to help us find our way! Also, there were several well placed man made cairns to help us find our way up the gulleys. Once we arrived at the summit ridge, it was easy route finding to the easy scramble to the summit. We topped out @ 11:00, had some summit cookies, took photos (to be posted later) and started the nasty scree descent. back to the cars by 5:00. Beautiful weather, gorgeous views and other than a couple of pretty sore feet an exceptionally enjoyable trip. Gear Notes: Helmets should be worn here! Approach Notes: Easy trail approach to Cispus basin, very straight forward.

About 4 years ago I was driving up the Middle Fork Road and saw one dart out across the road about 2 miles past the Mailbox trail head. Was around dusk. Big fucker, about 3' tall at the shoulders.

Harder than Chinese Arithmetic!

well, that depends on your standards......

Are there any water sources around Cispus Basin this time of year?

I will never get the time back that I spent reading this thread.

Ya know Scott, for a wanker you do o.k.!

This sounds like a pretty good idea, the only back up I've ever used is a prussik above the device.

Awesome! You guys definately deserve

Hence the request to take it up the arse, you twit!

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One of them works with my wife. I asked my wife if they might need a towel boy for their locker room.

Speedy recovery AlpineK!!