el jefe

tlc as well?

ok, stevetimetravlr, where were these photos taken? or is this turning into another one of those "i've got a secret crag" threads...

yes, post up some info so we can all learn something about this place. how big is the cliff? multipitch? average length of a pitch? number of established lines? grades? standard rack? driving directions with estimated driving time from, for example, eugene, etc.

people who threaten to chop long-established routes are hardly undeserving of being flamed, just as people who threaten to place bolts at moolack can expect to have info as to that crag's location withheld from them.

no, checat, i haven't been there. smug assholes such as you won't tell anyone where it is so irreverent assholes such as myself are therefore unable to experience the magnificence that is moolack. lighten up, dude. i was just having some fun with corvallisclimb. he didn't really place any bolts there and i haven't been there to observe how mossy/unmossy the place is. moolack is safe. take a deep breath and exhale, it'll help you relax a little.

at 50 a climber is just starting to hit his stride...

hear, hear. joseph is the guardian angel of beacon. every crag needs someone to look after it and joseph has done a great job of replacing old anchors and standardizing them.

any bolts placed now at moolack will be covered in moss by spring and you'll need a metal detector to find them.

all right, so i'll take back calling you a moron and clueless, shapp. i was okay with atreides calling me a troll because i thought it funny that he, the real troll, would be calling anyone else a troll, but i was irritated by you referring to me as a "potential troll" because i'm not a troll. unlike others who post here, i don't come on this site talking about how i'm going to chop routes or how my ethics are purer than someone else's because i wear a bandanna on my head while climbing and hang from #3 camalots rather than bolts. so let me say again, i apologize for offending you and take back what i said.

what's the deal with trip reports? do they prove something important in this forum?

so atreides comes on this website spewing about how he's going to chop routes at flagstone, i flame him for it, now i'm the "troll"? or "potential troll" depending upon whether one agrees with moron number 1 (atreides) or moron number 2 (shapp). really, people, if anyone here is a troll then it is atreides, as he is the one who put the bait in the water, while i'm the "mullet" (some really old, pre-internet slang for you) since i'm the fish who took the bait. and what is shapp in this scenario? answer: clueless as usual.

those photos are seriously underwhelming.

official start of ice climbing season = john frieh goes to bozeman

zardoz!

the standard ozone climb has something like 10-12 bolts closely spaced with one piece of gear somewhere on the route. if said bolt were placed on the route in question, it would then be equipped entirely with bolts and thus would violate the ozone's one piece of pro per route ethic. this can't be permitted for what would people say about us then?

tell him, rudy.

good to see you again rudy, and chris as well. and congrats to little guy on his send.

whoa! moolack the mysterious outed by corvallisclimb!

morning glory, dihedrals, then cocaine gully. i think we may have spoken to you guys below heinous cling before we headed up to cocaine.

nice photos. sunday was pretty dreamy conditions there, rock cold and dry but t shirts in the sun.

it appears young atreides was abducted by aliens (or was it moolackians?), leaving only his contribution to the climbing communnity in place of his earlier posts. except for one last epithet, all evidence of his existence has been removed from this world... now its off to smith rocks for me (where did i leave my spandex and quick draws?). there's not much chance the moolacks will grant me entry into their new yosemite. i'm just going to have to make do with the tired old tuff...

good luck finding moolack, young atreides, that boltless nirvana where only the pure of heart may gain access. may you, too, prove worthy of earning the trust of the initiated and learn the secret handshake that gains you entry into that blessed place.

it doesn't matter to you because you are an asshole who naively thinks he'll earn cred with the moolackers if he offers to chop a route at flagstone. i have teenage kids who have a more mature approach to the world than you do.

dude, you aren't just a noob but a tool as well.

i haven't been to flagstone but that doesn't matter, either. the route offends you, that's clear, but what isn't clear is why you have a right to chop it just because you don't approve. why are you right and they are wrong? you assert that "someone else most likely climbed those routes before the bolt ladders for midgets were installed", but you are just talking out of your ass if you can't tell us who this someone is and when they did the route. those routes have been around for a long time and the local community has made peace with them or they already would have been chopped. now you come along and presume for some reason that it is your job to set things right? i call that highly presumptuous of you.