tvashtarkatena

so you believe its possible to have a secret prison and NOT torture people in it? Yeah, Gitmo is such a SECRET! He's refering to the network of CIA black sites around the world. They were a very bad idea, and now, fortunately, they are being shut down by order of the President.

Shitty law enforcement? We've got 2.2 million people in prison right now, by far the highest incarceration rate in the world. What universe do you hail from? Joseph's post is spot on.

Well, we've always been on speaking terms. Some of the words may not have been the most PC at times....

That, would be an excellent thing to do once Raul steps down. It would also help insure we won't do anything this stupid again - at least not with the ease gitmo provided. If only that were true. The 5 Gitmo detainees currently on trial were tortured in various CIA sites around the world for 3 years before they ever got to Gitmo. Obama has ordered those secret prisons closed, but its only a matter of time before a new admininstration comes along that thinks they're a good idea.

Hey...Ivan just loaned me his down parka, nothing more, I swear....

Beautiful beach front property like that? No way. Hire a bunch of Jamaicans to run it as a resort.

We're funnier than shit about it, though.

I think his tastes might have tended more towards Bitburger.

Don't like assholes? Imagine a week without one.

do you wanna see the most beautiful thing in the world dc? I saw the most beautiful thing in the world ten days ago at my youngest daughter's wedding. must...not...ruin....moment...with...crass....comments.... I'm glad I'm not the only one....

Actually, the head of our own military commissions has admitted that we've tortured just recently. I think the 'is it torture?' question has long been laid to rest, officially and unofficially. No halfway serious person has asserted that the U.S. doesn't torture people in quite a while. Now, the argument is "Sure we torture, but these people deserve it." In a truly free and humane society, does anyone 'deserve' to be treated like a lab rat? Remember Room 101? Where the worst thing in the world is? It's now one of our 'tools' for 'fighting terrorism'. We're monsters. And, because we didn't defend the values we hold most dear and profess most often in troubled times, we're also physical and moral cowards, as well as liars.

I think you've probably got some artist in you, FW....

I'm not qualified to comment....

You provide a prolific conduit for all kinds of outbursts

Visualize a world without assholes.

Warning: TR dilution in effect...

I've spent my whole life trying to overcome my unfortunate genetic makeup on a number of fronts, so I'll be skipping any festivities tomorrow.

My upbringing was disturbingly similar to Ivan's. Navy, not Army, but pretty much same same.

I'm reminded of the last time PP posted approval ratings: McCain versus Obama. Ouchpuppies.

Bitch probably just wants his 'ARMY' T shirt back. It is to laugh!

Pretentious? Moi?

PM me and I swear to...um...the FSM or something else gigantic and superpowerful that I'll keep it fully and permanently confidential. If I renig you can spread those nude pics of us at that party one time all over the web.

I know you're no Rhodes scholar, but my blood alcohol at the time must have been pushing 50% in the back of that trailer that night. At least I think it was the back of that trailer...I don't remember anything about that week. I'm sorry about that, but you've made the best of what you've got, which, considering how little that is, well, as I said, I couldn't be prouder.

I've watched you make your own way from cyberspace. Help the Lakota. Getting Lysol removed from the trading post. Become their spokesman, even. After Kevin Costner passed the torch, of course. I know I wasn't there for you, but I hope its not too late to say that I'm proud of you.

Wut er u studying?