tvashtarkatena

From the Wiki: "The Wilderness Act allows certain uses (e.g.; resource extraction, grazing, etc) which existed before the land became wilderness to be grandfathered in, permitting them to continue to take place although the area that was designated as wilderness typically would not concede such uses. Specifically, mining, grazing, water uses, or any other uses that don’t significantly impact the majority of the area, can remain in some degree." Ie, there is quite a bit of discretion as to how a given Wildnerness area is managed, and locals, given that they are the primary users, historically have had a lot more say in the matter than non-users such as yourself. Gorge TR? Not aware of it, nor is is relevant here.

Well, we've heard your opinion from several hundred miles south of our border, complete with unrelated toilette paper rant, etc. I'd like to here more local opinions from people who've actually visited Washington's historic lookouts. Wilderness areas allow all kinds of things: horses, cabins,cattle and sheep grazing, hunting...based on historical use. That's why Wilderness Area regulations vary, A LOT, area by area...as they should. It's not the FS 'bending the rules', its an appropriate clause in the Wilderness Act that respects local history and use as well as the environment.

You're in Oregon. Not your local mountains, not where you frequent, not your problem. I'm also not interested in hearing about how you deal with your toilette paper, and I doubt anyone else is, either. It's really not at issue here, last time I checked. Plus...you've grossly mischaracterized the legality of the situ and are apparently not aware of what the Wilderness Act, and its provision for historic value, actually is. You're also apparently unaware that Washington's fire lookouts are maintained by volunteers, not state money. Volunteers may apply for grants, but those are certainly not guaranteed funding. BTW, many thanks to those volunteers who do such a great job of maintaining our historic and spectacular lookouts and cabins...the few that are left. How do the rest of you Washingtonians feel about our lookouts? Love em? Hate em?

Aluminum + any other metal = rapid corrosion. Critical pot diameter to flame diameter ratio for maximum cooking efficiency is 2:1 minimum. Efficiency drops off rapidly when with that ratio. Jetboil pots are invariably tall and skinny, however - the worst shape for efficiency. What gives?

"legislation?" That's just wordy shit. You know: fetish.

Can't you Montanans be content with yer bottle o Jack and a friendly sheep? http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20110115/NEWS01/701159925 Feel free to contact Wilderness Watch and tell them how you feel. I did. http://www.wildernesswatch.org/about/contact.html

If respect and support for the 1st Amendment is fetish, then I guess I'm a Super Freak.

I get your sarcasm but it is a joke to think that actual regulation is taking place. Well, Bone, I suppose you'd have to be somewhat knowledgeable about what these agencies have and have not done, in some detail, to make that call. You're not.

I do think the best way to free ourselves from the grip of existing oligarchy/oorporatocracy is to abolish the very agencies that regulate them. It's a no brainer.

Sound logic, Bone. I'm going to step in front of a speeding train this morning. Just need some radical change, you know?

My TAAAAKKKKEEEE!!!! on 2011: Jebus, all you do is create work for others...

Sweet little tantrum but a little shy on actual rebuttals. It's pretty clear you've never bothered to read the CU decision, nor do you know much about SCOTUS and the varied and conflicting philosophies of its justices. End of conversation.

That is my magic, Bone.

Bone...when you gonna get a BIG ASS PERM?

you never know how culture will osmose... Ooooo, its the Thai Love Links ad! Gotta go....

What you boyz do up thar stays up thar.

You know what I'm talkin' about...

When I run for office, I won't know who Tvashtarkatena is.

And conspiracy theorists. Hence, the Kevworship phenomenon.

We had a great trip on snowshoes. Hell, we didn't even need em for half the trip. The forest up was practically bare.

Take America back! (for a refund)

OMB: I'm headed to Smith for the weekend...my winter kayaking skills aren't up to dead vertical yet. I'll be out there for the next cold snap, though.

Decent trend on the pot laws, though.

Yeah, Colorado is a self centered douchiverse. You're fitting right in.

You guys gonna ice fish so you can snag some fly photos of Guyz Holding A Big One?