rob

"Viva la Corporation!!! -- Ron Paul 2012" I heard that was going to be his official campaign motto, right after "no more negros" but it didn't do as well in testing.

I hear you. But I also think it is complete nonsense to continue to vote for the same establishment thinking you are going to get a different result. Unless you like where we are at currently. I am willing to try something completely different. Dont hate me for it. Ron Paul is not "completely different" -- he's more like a concentrated version.

"scarves up!" lol, fucking retarded.

Who is bobby brown gonna hit now?

Wanna see a pic of my balls? PM me

Would you all like me to share my special purpose? Some might consider that to be firmly held.

either would work

You guys gotta get your message straight. We stay away and you bitch. Then we post and Jon says we're not working enough at the office. Hold a fucking meeting already, people. I'm a shareholder.

Rimrock Lake is close to LWorth? I guess it's all relative.

What is lame Rob is that YOU are choosing to attack me for not spitting out your party line on an unrelated topic, coupled with making personal attacks. We are discussing a (IMO) wasteful gov't expense. Have you chimed in and agreed that it is wasteful? No. Have you chimed in and stated why it is OK to spend 3.2 million on this toilet? No. You are changing the subject and demanding that I talk about my position on something completely different. The problem here is not insufficient tax revenue - it's spending the revenue we already get on stupid, inflated projects. How many 3.2 million dollar toilets in WA state would you like Carnival to pay for Rob? The one in Elbe? I guess where we differ here is I am OK with taxing Carnival more, but not to waste the money on boondoggle expenses. You must have misunderstood me. I think a 3.2 million dollar toilet is absolutely ridiculous -- I just don't think it's "why america is bankrupt" or whatever it is you said, which is what I objected to. The reason America is in debt is not because of 3 million dollar toilets, and it's disingenuous to claim so. It's because of the money we spend on defense, and because of the many subsidies we give to corporate interests and other wealthy lobbyists. You're complaining about pennies while congress is handing out cigars wrapped in $20 bills to their wealthy and influential friends. THAT'S why we're in debt. Not because of welfare moms and expensive toilets. That doesn't mean I want to keep wasting pennies, too. It's just about assigning the proper causation here. For the record, I don't expect you to toe any party line. I just expect you to use logic, and logic dictates that it's possible my objection to a 1.1% tax on 11 billion in profits MIGHT just be influenced by something other than jealousy.

I've always wanted to get something up in the Twisp/Winthrop area.

I would LOVE to see some conservatives stand up to the republican party. I'm a liberal but I stand up and disagree with the democratic party ALL THE TIME. Publicly. And other liberals, for that matter. But, just because you're a conservative, you have to toe the party line and pretend that it's OK to let corporations pay 1.1% tax on 11 billion, and that I'm just jealous? Will you lose your conservative credentials if you're caught admitting that such a 1.1% tax is a crime? Lame. Seriously lame.

You DO support them paying only 1.1% in profits because you vote for republicans who consider closing corporate loopholes to be "raising taxes." And when anybody points out that this company is a tax scofflaw, you just accuse them of being "jealous." So, from my perspective, you absolutely DO support them paying such a low amount. Otherwise, you wouldn't have attacked me, you would have said something like, "damn, that's messed up!" -- instead, you said something like, "good for them!" Also, taxing 1.1% (instead of the actual rate) on 11.3 billion IS throwing money away. LOL! I guess that kind of math is too hard for republicans to muster. Wrong on all counts. Having a bad day, Rob? Nope, having a great day. I just hate it when "conservatives" pretend to be all about ending wasteful spending while refusing to end corporate loopholes and subsidies. It's like watching a whore pretend to be a virgin. And then when anybody points out that the republicans are wasting money by giving a free ride to the extreme rich and to wealthy corporations, you just say that they're jealous. It's really annoying to see you pick sides -- railing against 3 million dollar bathrooms but refusing to acknowledge that a 1.1% tax bill is ludicrous. It's disappointing. It's OK though, I'll admit that you're right and I'm wrong. Does that make you feel better?

You DO support them paying only 1.1% in profits because you vote for republicans who consider closing corporate loopholes to be "raising taxes." And when anybody points out that this company is a tax scofflaw, you just accuse them of being "jealous." So, from my perspective, you absolutely DO support them paying such a low amount. Otherwise, you wouldn't have attacked me, you would have said something like, "damn, that's messed up!" -- instead, you said something like, "good for them!" Also, taxing 1.1% (instead of the actual rate) on 11.3 billion IS "flushing money down the toilet." LOL!

meanwhile Carnival Cruises pays 1.1% tax on a cumulative 11.3 BILLION in profits. Sure....we're bankrupt because of the BATHROOMS. Right. Wink wink.

I don't hate them, I just don't think they should be allowed to marry, or be mentioned in teh public schools. No special rights for those kinds of people. That kind of comment is way too smart for spray, OW.

I agree.....too bad we have not had one of those in a while. Yeah, that's what happens when less than 50% of voters actually bother showing up and voting. What a bunch of little bitches.

It is. Man, I was really happy when those skiers stopped us for a safety meeting.

Given the amount of money they have to give to their leaders every time the leaders proclaim a new apocalypse, that's not surprising. The sheep get fleeced so the pigs can wear wool suits. http://life.nationalpost.com/2012/01/26/b-c-polygamist-tells-court-hes-paid-church-for-15-separate-apocalypses/ And he didn't even get to clear his body thetans???!!!! What a gyp.

Well, I don't know how LDS spends its tithed collections, but assume at least a good portion of it goes towards some "good" whether direct and physical or intangible and emotional/spiritual. Exactly. Like keeping gays from marrying.

Yes, I did the BCC at Everett, although I never did enough post-course club climbs because I hated the club. Of course I did the MOFA and nav classes, too. I also spent a bit volunteering with a local Mountain Rescue chapter, became field-certified and did several rigging exercises and missions with them. I also took a self-rescue class with a local guide service. I stand by my assertion that a motivated individual with a good mind could do the equivalent of the "theory" aspect of the BCC by himself, and supplement field experience with people he meets here. Fuck you too, shithead. I doubt your fat ass could even prussic up the line.

I would not recommend the Mountaineers. They will make you wear your helmet and gaiters while eating lunch in the parking lot. There are other local climbing clubs of which I know little, but I would try them first, personally. They may be turn out being the same, but that's the risk you run. Or, just make friends here. If you do take a course like the mounties, I would recommend getting out and doing non-club climbs AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. If you're smart, you can figure this stuff out by yourself. By smart, I mean that you're rigging lines in the trees at home and practicing ascending a line, and practicing setting up z-pulleys in your living room while memorizing knots in the dark with gloves on. The mounties can't teach you anything you can't learn yourself if you have a half-way decent mind, and local advice here on cc.com can supplement your home-study nicely by giving you actual answers to WHY, rather than the "that's just how we do it" that most mountie volunteers will give you. Learn and practice self-arrest, memorize your knots, know how to rig a z-pulley and climb a line and I bet come spring there are lots of people who would be willing to take you out. In the meantime, do a lot of non-technical snow climbs/hikes to get stronger and practice travelling on snow slopes. Good luck!

Sure, but are you gonna try to convince me that we'd better off without any taxation? Cuz I grew up in a libertarian household; i doubt your particular brand of crazy is anything I haven't heard before. But, you have to buy the beer, since you're challenging.