rob

I'm familiar with the various ways the IPO was botched, and I personally agree that the value of facebook as a company was nowhere near the value of the initial offering -- but I haven't heard any substantiated, credible evidence of any of these investment firms breaking the law specifically regarding this IPO. What do you mean by "changing horses midstream" -- are you referring to adding extra stock at the last minute, or raising the offer price, or perhaps the last-minute downgraded estimates by the investment firm's own research division? All of these are indeed highly unusual, but not necessarily illegal and I haven't seen any article claiming that there is any actual evidence of fraud or criminal misconduct, or mentioning serious pending massive class-action shareholder lawsuits. Who is the defendant? Morgan Stanley? Facebook? Do you have a (preferably non tinfoil-hat) link you can share, I'd be interested to read it. I've seen lots of negative articles criticizing the IPO but none specifically reporting credible evidence of lawbreaking. Thanks!

Check the permit site, purmit.com

FB at 75 times forward earnings? LOL! I think I'll keep my money in aapl, thanks.

Don't complain about people complaining until you've tried complaining about it yourself. Walk a mile in our shoes, dickhead!

Um, maybe you could also give us the english version?

I recently learned here on CC that it's not fair to complain about people abusing charity until you've tried to abuse charity yourself. Walk a mile in other people's shoes before complaining about their corruption.

Zero ate three? I thought seven ate nine? ba dum chsh

Omg summitchaser??

A Canadian guy is walking down the street with a case of beer under his arm. His friend stops him and asks, "Hey Dave! Whatcha got that case of beer for?" "Well, I got it for my wife, you see?" answers Dave. "Wow," exclaims Randy, "Great trade."

Like Dan Aykroyd? I'll grant you that one.

Wait, I thought we were all supposed to try things first before complaining about them? I'm so confused

Canada is turning out to be like that drunk girl who looks pretty good at the party in the dark, but then you realize the next morning when you wake up that she's actually a dumb hillbilly who kinda smells like ass and was obviously lying about her modeling career

ain't that the truth

It's amazing that you can still demonstrate this level of "us vs. them" divisiveness, especially considering that you and I appear to agree on this issue. It's confusing to me how you can, on the one hand, acknowledge your basic agreement with me on the grand ideals of freedom of speech, but on the other hand lump me into a group of "you guys" who are actively trying to destroy what you and I apparently agreed on just moments before. It's kind of surreal. Especially when my original point was that Canada isn't actually very liberal. Me: "Hey, Wow, look at this! Canada actually isn't very liberal at all! Shocking! America is way better." You: "Yeah, you're right. But this is what happens when people like you get their way." Personally, I don't know any major U.S. liberal icon that thinks freedom of speech should be limited in this manner, and I doubt the ACLU would support such legislation -- in fact, that particular organization would probably fight to the death against legislation like this. Yet you probably lump the ACLU into the group of "you guys" who are trying to destroy america or whatever. Here's a direct question for you: Would this country be better off if the conservatives in charge lacked any liberal opposition?

I almost had this experience at Disney Land. God, that place is awful.

Their record on freedom of speech is certainly not impressive. They've even tried to keep Andrew Dice Clay from performing, because "his routines tend to promote hate against women" From Crash Test Dummies: Canada's Experiments with Free Speech And they call Americans prudes! Most Canadians, I think, are actually quite conservative. I guess it's not surprising -- despite pockets of liberalism, most of Canada is basically Texas, isn't it?

I wonder why so many liberals think Canada is so cool and enlightened? I guess they're just retarded. Or ignorant. Or both?

I hate this advice. You're not allowed to just complain about anything, you just have to set an example yourself? Hippie bullshit. I guess I better quit my job and start working construction, because the guys digging up my street are doing a terrible job. Oh, and I guess I better stop complaining about Congress, too.

yeah, I think you're right, I don't think Facebook has really figured it out yet.

Bob, right? Don't worry about it, I don't really know who you are, either.

You don't even know who I am! so funny

LOL, I did? You must have me mistaken for somebody else, dude. I was never a McCain supporter, where did you even get that idea? Back in 2008 FW was still busy making personal insults out of my pending divorce and shit.

i think you guys are nuts. Anybody in the ad market will tell you the future of advertising is in micro-relevance. Facebook isn't going anywhere. Ads (especially mobile ads) are just going to become more and more relevant and advertising companies are going to continue to know more and more about you and that is not going to change for quite a while. This idea that people are going to suddenly wake up and rebel against this, or that the entire world will somehow shift radically back to pre-facebook levels of privacy is just wishful thinking. If FB can figure out how to mine and use the data at their finger prints, they will own advertising -- and search. We'll see if they're smart enough to figure this out, but if they don't someone else will.

I'm in the wrong business