Cobra_Commander

it's in Burkshard County

So what you are saying is they really are snake charmers

I thought the guy on the right was snake-charming that rope straight up and somehow standing on it

I just thought it was funny because if you successfully tr'd it, don't you think you would be the one with the best/latest info on what gear would work?

UBB26-ML-502474-ML- moved because it's an access issue, leaving pointer here for more eyes to see.

Interesting converstion on live-the-vision: Howie: This spring Jamie McVicar, Joe Buzowski and myself met with Roger from Alberta Sustainable Resources and drove through the Ghost and he showed us what was proposed. He said that there was still going to be vehicle access to the Banff Boundry and to the river crossing around STD. We would not be allowed to cross the river any more. Also, random camping was being eliminated, you would only be able to camp at the bottom of the big hill and at the old CMC camp at Wully Wall. We explained to Roger that the Ghost was a world class ice climbing destination and not being able to drive accross the river was going to be a big deal in the winter. He basically had no idea that people even use the ghost in the winter or at least that was the impression he gave me. We basically asked for some kind of winter access to the ice climbs, at least as far as This House of Sky, and some more random camping spots. We showed him around and he seemed pretty okay with everything. When we got back from this little meeting, we emailed the people from the ACC and even had a conference call with them, they seemed to have no idea about the scope of the proposed closure for the Ghost, especially the ice access. Jamie knows a bit more about this, but I guess the ACC was one of the groups given "standing" at some of the user group meeting in the planning stage. I now hear that basically they are going ahead with the orginal plan, no special winter access and just the camping spots I mentioned. This is what I know so far, if your hearing more, please post it. Jamie may know more and post it, but this is a huge blow especially for ice climbing. Crossing creeks in 20 below weather just ain't fun, and makes climb's in the valley of the dogs a pretty big day. Contact the ACC, call your MLA or if you have any other great ideas, jump on it. I don't know if it will make any difference, but it sure can't hurt at this stage. Look forward to hearing what other people might know or heard. Thanks Howie Later Shawn

Interesting conversation on live-the-vision: Howie: This spring Jamie McVicar, Joe Buzowski and myself met with Roger from Alberta Sustainable Resources and drove through the Ghost and he showed us what was proposed. He said that there was still going to be vehicle access to the Banff Boundry and to the river crossing around STD. We would not be allowed to cross the river any more. Also, random camping was being eliminated, you would only be able to camp at the bottom of the big hill and at the old CMC camp at Wully Wall. We explained to Roger that the Ghost was a world class ice climbing destination and not being able to drive accross the river was going to be a big deal in the winter. He basically had no idea that people even use the ghost in the winter or at least that was the impression he gave me. We basically asked for some kind of winter access to the ice climbs, at least as far as This House of Sky, and some more random camping spots. We showed him around and he seemed pretty okay with everything. When we got back from this little meeting, we emailed the people from the ACC and even had a conference call with them, they seemed to have no idea about the scope of the proposed closure for the Ghost, especially the ice access. Jamie knows a bit more about this, but I guess the ACC was one of the groups given "standing" at some of the user group meeting in the planning stage. I now hear that basically they are going ahead with the orginal plan, no special winter access and just the camping spots I mentioned. This is what I know so far, if your hearing more, please post it. Jamie may know more and post it, but this is a huge blow especially for ice climbing. Crossing creeks in 20 below weather just ain't fun, and makes climb's in the valley of the dogs a pretty big day. Contact the ACC, call your MLA or if you have any other great ideas, jump on it. I don't know if it will make any difference, but it sure can't hurt at this stage. Look forward to hearing what other people might know or heard. Thanks Howie Later Shawn

post of the day

Perhaps the difference can be seen between theorizing wildly about grim detail and actually establishing what happened to provide therapeutic closure.

On the NASA stuff: Have the public do all the heavy lifting for you, give a reward. http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2005/sep/HQ_05273_moon_dirt.html

I wish there was footage of the flooded zoo. There must be all kinds of cool food chains forming, like that gorilla reaching for the banana in the simpsons that gets eaten by a shark. the insect zoo would be off the chain. Finally an opportunity to see shark vs. bear

I thought it was a termite

is that from field of dreams? shoeless joe jackson on the left I assume

Someone posted a photo showing current conditions on Mt. Hood (it actually doesn't look that bad):

By "rescued" they mean they were caught looting the seafood aisle at Safeway. The water is hiding their shackles. The two up top appear to be making a prison break.

As far as I can tell you have to be driving a fruit truck while vomiting apple cores out the window to get any attention from those guys.

I wonder how they were getting along with the roaming wild dog packs

I wonder if friends would like to read about musings on their found condition.

California, of course, has none of these

I recommend more arcing freeways that go nowhere

Oh I'd wager there's some meth to be found. You forgot subaru outbacks

It's from all those damn fruit quarantines. Fruit Patrol: "Got any fruit in there?" Me (driving truck w/canopy stuffed with things): "No" Fruit Patrol: "Carry on"

As everyone knows, Hillsboro is quintessential Oregon.

only because you come up here and propagate.