kevbone

Double Dip......J tree. This bolt was most likely placed on lead sometime in the seventies. I personaly would not care if is was power drilled on rapell. So it comes to ethics of HOW the bolt was placed????? Why.....why do you care so much?

Ericb......nice job on the 5 hour stint the other night! Or I should congradulate your child. When Miles was about 2 weeks old he suprised us by a 5 hour jont.......we were so happy.... Miles at the park on Sat....

Would you explain to me, since you seem to know……what it is I want? Thanks. Look…..it is quite simple…..in my opinion….its all about who got there first. If some dorkwad showed up and bolted the crap out of a face……I would not be the one to chop. I may not like it but it would be out of my hand……same thing goes with the other way around, where you show up to a crag and the original developers have made it a no bolt crag…..well I am not going to debate that with them. They have my respect due to they got there first. It’s all about respecting those who came before you. Like your parents.

Thats 5742.....get it straight!

Bill.....you have over 3000 posts now......what to do about you?

Dont you have to go to medical school to become a Dr.?

Pictures? What did you think of the offwidths? 5.9 my ass.

Lash has broken ribs? Holy shit.....I have to give him a call.

Why did you decline? Did you ever get on the route to just climb it?

We agree on this. Only, and I mean ONLY if the FA approves of this. Bolting on lead is certainly respectable and has my admiration. But in my time of climbing, I have found that rap bolted climbs are bolted with more responsibility for those who follow you in the future. Climbs that were done on lead, holds my attention more…..but it seems I only climb those climbs once due to exposure to injury. If I am injured I don’t climb at all. That’s no fun. Of course we have the yahoo’s with a drill and go crazy…….which is probably the reason for your concern. Well……we may not agree on this……mmmm…..how do I put this in a soft tone…… I don’t give a fuck about using a power drill in a wilderness area. If you want to lug the thing around…..more power to you. So if you can top rope it……it should never be bolted to lead it? I guess you could say…..if you can fly over it and look at it…..you should never cut the trees down and drive through it. Will you be more specific please? Do the hikers come first?

Very interesting.

43 minutes is unbelievable….so what was their time from car to car, which is what the original post was asking about.

I could be wrong....pictures are deceiving, but he does not appear to be bolting a crack. So your problem is all bolts? Just trying to get a feel for what your issue is?

That is true.....and dont forget troll.

Farrell at his best......this is funny

Good times!

Anonymously? I would say my log in name is about as anonymous as your's.....Eric Kevin Not to be superior, but I also include my last initial Ah....shit.....you got me! How is the kid doing?

Anonymously? I would say my log in name is about as anonymous as your's.....Eric Kevin

I read alot! Just not childrens books.

WTF is up with this? How are so many adults addicted to a children’s book? A colleague just told me he and his wife spent all day on Sunday sitting around reading the latest addition to each other out loud. I did not know what to say…..I just walked away.

Are they going to pass out rubbers as well? Yes, and clean needles too, kevin. You need to stop listening to that Savage guy. Ha ha! I listen to him for entertainment when the other channels are on break.

Now that is five star essay!

Are they going to pass out rubbers as well?

You can’t possibly be comparing this....... to this? This is a picture of me and a friend on IB. Well a new version of it. We are not clipping bolts here. Actually we are just alpine climbing on new terrain. All natural gear, thank God you don’t have a problem with that! or this? Because if you are......you need to get your head examined. And…..I would rather see the guy tearing up the road in the woods than a strip mall.