kevbone

What is this thread about?

Am I the only one who thinks this statement is utter bullshit. Innocent until proven guilty.

Cool as hell.

My daughter crawled for the first time this last weekend....woot woot....She will be ten month on 8/06.

And yet you showed up and then contributed less than Kevin E-rock...hmmmm interesting. Bone, you and I are close to agreeing here. It is wrong to hold people, many on flimsy if any evidence, indefinitely. It goes against what our country stands for and what makes us strong. Give them a trial or set them free. The difference is that most of these are POWs, battlefield warriors who were captured. Imagine if in WW2, the US had tried all of the captured German troops. What would the charge have been anyway? How would you provide evidence? It can't be processed that way. However, it should have been processed via tribunal by now, and the real badasses locked up or hung and the rest let go. In a sense, that has been occurring at a glacial pace. I think the difference is German troops had German uniforms on and all spoke German and were caught firing guns at US troops. A lot of these suspects were hunted down by bounty hunters or tribal leaders and sold to US forces. Solely on suspicion.

If they are not terrorists they can let them go, if they are terrorists, they can hold them there as well as hold them inside the US border. If they are going to have a tribunal why not there? How much do you think this move will cost? What will it really do? IMO It's just expensive window dressing that will do nothing and cost you money. Good points bill. I believe all these SUSPECTS are completely INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW. Don’t you think that? What happened to this very important concept? If you are held by our government….IMO you should be held to the same standard that we hold ourselves too. The government needs to bring charges against these INNOCENT SUSPECTS and try them in a court of law….if they cannot bring charges against them….then they have to let them go. Period! You cannot hold someone solely on suspicion alone. That is bullshit. You cannot call them terrorist until you have proof they have terrorized the US. How would you like it if the guy down the street told the police you broke a law and the cops held you for 3 years solely on suspicion? Not very fair way to live IMO. Gitmo is a complete disregard of our constitution. Just makes me sick.

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Great idea. I dont even think the first bolt on smerk is a real bolt. More like bent metal that someone made in there garage.

Which climbs?

"To the House Republican leader, it's an "ill-conceived plan" that would bring terrorists into the U.S. despite opposition by Congress and the American people" Don’t you mean completely innocent people that have not been found guilty in a court of law? Terrorists….pffff Link

To all CC.copm......you :rawk: :rocken: Even you 5k.

Like the good old days of the stuck red cam......

I have placed about 150 bolts in my time.

Is that you spenc????

Go Obama.

JH....have you ever driven 56 in a 55? Law breaker!

Give me a break! I can see you lobbing for the bird (kind of)....but not poison oak. JH....give it a rest.

Yep....you are missing it.

Why do you have to ask the rangers?

AKA....your butt hole

Agreed.

Nice pictures.

I disagree. What if you are freeing one pitch? You fall and lower down. Then you get it next try....is that not freeing the pitch? Where did you get your definition of a free route from?

Uh....did the guy climb the roof on lead and not fall or aid on any pieces? Then it got freed. End of story. Free climb: to ascend free of aid. And if you go by the new way.....the FFA gets to rename the "free" version. Wonder what they will call it.

Why not REI. Use them then just return them.