kevbone

This is a killer picture.

Well said....you are my hero.

It did not appear to be a cam at all.

And you need to quit dating your plunger.

My bad....I thought these were your words.

Great and easy are two different things JH. And no one strays onto this climb. You lower off it 20 feet back from where you start. One does not start up it without having some years under there belt as a climber, guide book or not. That was sarcasm Kev, coming over from the Reasonable Richard bolt discourse you started in spray. Of course this is an obvious roof. _________________________________________________________________ So how would one get the cam head out? Could the thing be sawed out? I heard of someone doing that to a Camalot once, but I think it was much bigger so it would be easier to get in to it. For the record, I don't have time to head up and work on a route that's over my head anyway so I'm out, but I'm just curious. I would think that getting in a good position (assuming the good placement is now useless) work on it might be the crux. Could you sling it around the back of the cam lobes and funkness it out? ______________________________________________________________ Doug, you are right, as always. I think I wound up saying F* it and deleting the thing off the site. I dont think it was sarcasm. I think JH meant it. Most of the time he not knows what he says.

except when YOU install a bolt to make a 3-star route SAFE JH....he has a VERY good point. Your answer would be....huh...uh....nothing because your hypocrisy would be huge.

Pretty well sums up the best argument against bolting. I would say that is the best argument FOR bolting.

Great and easy are two different things JH. And no one strays onto this climb. You lower off it 20 feet back from where you start. One does not start up it without having some years under there belt as a climber, guide book or not.

Me too. Which is why I love Beacon rock. The nut placments there are amazing.

Well said.

Mark. Any of these your routes?

Climbing art? WTF.....are they trying to say that native americans climbed up on these faces and drew artwork?

I would call Dustin or Martin. PM me is you need a number.

Great job guys.

What about placing gear? Its a crack.

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Lets see them.

Exactly !!!!!!!! Yes, sadly the photographic evidence from that day was all destroyed, leaving us only conspiracy photos to piece together what really happened. Dont you think if a plane actually hit the Pentagon that the goverment would want us to see it to sell us further?

Please stop posting pictures of your mother.

In on what?

I thought you hated guide books Joseph. Why would you reading them?

MIGHT be listening?

I thought you were Seahawks.