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Nate did you soloed Blownout? Did you downclimb Jills Thrill?

has about 70 posts today alone. Damn.....you been busy.

Bob McGown and I did the route, wayyy back in the 80s. Apparently so did Joseph. Thanks for clarifying Wayne.

Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning? ?

Really?

What does god and america have to do with one another.

if by oldschool you mean posting pictures of fat-assed transvestites or of hepatitis-infected plastic surgery victims, please don't. Those pics actually make me nauseous.

if by oldschool you mean posting pictures of fat-assed transvestites or of hepatitis-infected plastic surgery victims, please don't. Fat assed transvestites? When? Where? On cc.com.....say it an't so.

So.....what have we learned from this very important thread?

This amazing thread might need some old school.

She does not care. Your turn.

What about this guy? He does not look like a climber. Care to explain yourself JH?

This is not spray. And this thread is about falcon closures. Is this not the appropriate forum to discuss falcons? Its not like we are clogging up the interweb.

What about this guy? He does not look like a climber.

You are so off base with this statement I would think you are on crack. Did you not read what I wrote early. Snickers bar and a pepsi can in the nest. These things were put there buy HIKERS throwing them off the trail. You know....right at the sign that says "dont throw, climbers below". You are for the birds at all costs. You are not for the climbers. That is very clear to me. You once even offered to cut back a ledge of grass so the birds could nest there one year. Are you kidding me? Jesus.....let them fail so they will go away. You keep doing what ever it takes to help the birds. STOP IT!!!! I love the birds. But I dont love them nesting on Beacon Rock. They could just as easily nest on Mt. Hamilton.

I love the city!

I totally agree. The birds get used to us then bam....we are gone for 6 months...then BAM...we are back. Totally freaks them out.

Joseph. I am tired of hearing you whine about our whine. If you dont like it.....quit responding.

John Petrucci is an amazing player but the best? I feel Paul Gilbert rips all over him..... Paco is the best alive IMO [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBKarHlP4KU

How about no climbers within 300 feet of the nest? Those words are the words of the biologist in charge a few years back. Scientific because most other closures have boundaries. Legal because they can do what ever they want (kind of like cops). Policy because, just like legal, they can write how they seem fit.

Sorry Joseph. I have to call bullshit on this. As climbers, with friends like you at Beacon, we don't need more enemies. There are very good grounds for opening a section of the rock that is no where near the falcon nesting. Your constant negativity and public slanderage of the climbing community all the while coming off as a climber certainly do not contribute to this effort however. That IS one indisputable fact. JH....the party of no.

So if I climbed from right gull and over to the right....I cannot see big ledge, therefore the birds are not in my "line of sight". So why does the closure extend to all climbing on the south face.

OK - wow, that is a knot of issues. Thanks again. And the rub......if the powers that be really wanted to make sure the birds are protected at all costs....they would close the trail. Plain and simple. But like you said....it might disrupt their landmark tourist sites. So it is also plain and simple that the birds and their welfare are not high on the list of firsts for the WSP.

Joseph. You are like a republican. Always what cant be done. The party of "no"! Just think what could happen if you put all your creativity into a yes mentality.