Kimmo

interesting article for sure, and similar in findings to other sources i've read (about the relatively benign nature of the swine flu). A previous CDC study states that 2/3 of children who died had neurological disorders or respiratory diseases such as asthma.3 If we take the 60% figure, that means out of the 84 children reported to have died by October 24th, 2009, only 34 children considered healthy in a nation of 301 million people really died, not 84. It is also instructive to note that according to CDC figures, the seasonal flu last year killed 116 children.9

it is evident from your well-researched opining that you enjoyed the article in the Atlantic immensely.

if you admit to your gross error regarding viruses and apologize for being so rude, i promise i will pretend to know what you are talking about by contextualizing your above assertion.

well how the heck was i suposta know what she meant, when she's making false statements. she's your wife, you know her better.

well, who?

WOW! Where did you learn that? Did you go to school at all? Our high school students interns are doing better than that. oh come on man, don't get all defensive in front of the other students like that. bad form!

there is no "original non-mutated virus". every virus falls into the definitional category of "mutation". So does every human. You obviously have the RTRD reading comprehension mutation. which part of the original assertion, "original non-mutated virus", baffles your reading comprehension?

there is no "original non-mutated virus". every virus falls into the definitional category of "mutation".

salient excerpt from article: Yet some top flu researchers are deeply skeptical of both flu vaccines and antivirals. Like the engineers who warned for years about the levees of New Orleans, these experts caution that our defenses may be flawed, and quite possibly useless against a truly lethal flu. And that unless we are willing to ask fundamental questions about the science behind flu vaccines and antiviral drugs, we could find ourselves, in a bad epidemic, as helpless as the citizens of New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina. those pesky people who keep bringing up nagging questions about vaccines!

only because you read the article, right?

oh did i mention? good article

Yeah, ever since they shut down The Dolphin there's just not anything hard enough there anymore, right? I think the City is just fine for those cragging in the 5.9 to middling 5.11 range, but its days as a major Euro destination are long over. Its also a better destination for a week than a month. for harder climbs yeah it's short on them, but the reason is sucks for me is thus: one year, snow and winds the whole time early summer. next time cold and winds the whole time later summer. then pulled out dead kid from truck he rolled driving way too fast down the dirt road. i prefer j tree for similar climbing.

please abort this thread for warm confines of the other room.

Please shower each other with affection here. Pink is invited.

btw, sorry about yer kid ivan. sounds like she's bouncing back, which is to be expected.

Food for thought. Atlantic Monthly article

okay fine then. but you might even check into camping reservations cuz, well, you just should. we went years ago and got lucky with campsites; this time we had a rez but it seemed like camping was kinda full. i know nothing about europe in summertime. gets kinda hot, no? but ceuse is in season? actually went to wyoming in july one year, wild iris, and it was good. it's high up there, 7,000 feet i think. ahhh what are we doing next summer? that's a long way off. if we score some of these projects we're vying for, then making reservations at the crown victoria. if not, then maybe serving you yer next latte at starbucks.

yeah grassi lakes aint all that, never went to yam or raptor, but come on, lake louise? awesome solid rock and fun techie and powerful! and you never sampled the better steep limestone either, it sounds like.... i would agree though that the red looks awesome, the new is good, having been there (the city sucks), but AUGUST? yer a mad dog, my man. rudy, online stuff your googling is as good as mine. got an older guidebook, that's it. if you decide to go, definitely check on reservations cuz it might get crowded.

where'd ya go? it seems acephale's pretty cleaned up. and some other crags that i never got to seemed like bomber blue limestone, from the photos hehe....

canmore's cool. 9 hour drive, or quick flight. it truly is gorgeous up there. i think yer gym-freak kids would really like the steeps. canmore's got some great restaurants, and lodging with hot tubs and the whole shebang. some of the crags require a bit of hiking though, specifically acephale (45 minutes to lower wall, another 15 to upper). and yer kid can fire The Path!

i'd worry about the heat and humidity. what do yer kids say about it maybe being 95 degrees with 95 humidity? i'd think about bow valley, canmore area. really good limestone at all grades and angles, and trad stuff to boot. we were there in august, and pretty much perfect temps. hikes, city life, restaurants.... it's kinda got it all.

i cannot agree to that. sounds too much like rocky joe logic. what are we talking about anyway? oh yeah, hanging by our fingers. now that sounds downright silly!

just kiddin'. that was ill, especially rolling the bridge rail on vid #1.

well, definitely impressive, but no matter how you slice it, it's still a unicycle. it would have been better if he was wearing a clown costume.

ahh, in the military? ahh, in the military? his "illustrative point" is non-illustrative, because he is way off base (in theory, but perhaps not in practice). glad you got a good workout; there are many ways to skin a cat (if yer into that kinda thing).