Kimmo

there's a university just east of downtown, can't remember the name, that has really cool gardens. japanese gardens, rose gardens, that kinda thing. really worth visiting. and then there's the world famous sooke harbor house. one of the better and more interesting meals i've ever had in my life. fixed price menu, with some choices among entrees. there's a climbing gym methinks, and horne lake up north, steep limestone oho.

to the arabs.

at times like this it is important to stay calm and take everything at face value. please remember that george bush's main objective in iraq was to bring democracy.

the way to properly assign a grade to a route is to wire it ruthlessly, solo it, then grade it. you know, like they did in the olden days.

no. and, it's a little silly and naive to think that the companies standing to profit most from this type of pandemic wouldn't have critical input access points at the top decision making levels, and would not use these to further their own self-interests.

dude, he was BORN with that double chin, so lay off.

quick, buy in now before the chance passes you!

perhaps influenza will be our next commodity bubble?

interesting article for sure, and similar in findings to other sources i've read (about the relatively benign nature of the swine flu). A previous CDC study states that 2/3 of children who died had neurological disorders or respiratory diseases such as asthma.3 If we take the 60% figure, that means out of the 84 children reported to have died by October 24th, 2009, only 34 children considered healthy in a nation of 301 million people really died, not 84. It is also instructive to note that according to CDC figures, the seasonal flu last year killed 116 children.9

it is evident from your well-researched opining that you enjoyed the article in the Atlantic immensely.

if you admit to your gross error regarding viruses and apologize for being so rude, i promise i will pretend to know what you are talking about by contextualizing your above assertion.

well how the heck was i suposta know what she meant, when she's making false statements. she's your wife, you know her better.

well, who?

WOW! Where did you learn that? Did you go to school at all? Our high school students interns are doing better than that. oh come on man, don't get all defensive in front of the other students like that. bad form!

there is no "original non-mutated virus". every virus falls into the definitional category of "mutation". So does every human. You obviously have the RTRD reading comprehension mutation. which part of the original assertion, "original non-mutated virus", baffles your reading comprehension?

there is no "original non-mutated virus". every virus falls into the definitional category of "mutation".

salient excerpt from article: Yet some top flu researchers are deeply skeptical of both flu vaccines and antivirals. Like the engineers who warned for years about the levees of New Orleans, these experts caution that our defenses may be flawed, and quite possibly useless against a truly lethal flu. And that unless we are willing to ask fundamental questions about the science behind flu vaccines and antiviral drugs, we could find ourselves, in a bad epidemic, as helpless as the citizens of New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina. those pesky people who keep bringing up nagging questions about vaccines!

only because you read the article, right?

oh did i mention? good article

Yeah, ever since they shut down The Dolphin there's just not anything hard enough there anymore, right? I think the City is just fine for those cragging in the 5.9 to middling 5.11 range, but its days as a major Euro destination are long over. Its also a better destination for a week than a month. for harder climbs yeah it's short on them, but the reason is sucks for me is thus: one year, snow and winds the whole time early summer. next time cold and winds the whole time later summer. then pulled out dead kid from truck he rolled driving way too fast down the dirt road. i prefer j tree for similar climbing.

please abort this thread for warm confines of the other room.

Please shower each other with affection here. Pink is invited.

btw, sorry about yer kid ivan. sounds like she's bouncing back, which is to be expected.

Food for thought. Atlantic Monthly article

okay fine then. but you might even check into camping reservations cuz, well, you just should. we went years ago and got lucky with campsites; this time we had a rez but it seemed like camping was kinda full. i know nothing about europe in summertime. gets kinda hot, no? but ceuse is in season? actually went to wyoming in july one year, wild iris, and it was good. it's high up there, 7,000 feet i think. ahhh what are we doing next summer? that's a long way off. if we score some of these projects we're vying for, then making reservations at the crown victoria. if not, then maybe serving you yer next latte at starbucks.