Kimmo

if you can barely afford a gym membership, i think there are wayyyy better ways to spend your hard-earned cash than some seminar. hehe, quite the sales-pitch. what cut are you getting? i think first of all, the questions listed above can be researched and learned about through questions on forums where peeps actually climb hard (read some climber's web-sites that outline their workouts, and read lotso books; good info out there), and really, the silliness of some of the questions above make me wonder about the (pricey) seminar's legitimacy. just my modest opinion!

thanks for info all, looks like ya had a fun float trip shapp! (we went down the john day river a couple of years ago. super fun stuff!) thanks rudy, i'll talk to mike. orion, i'll let you know what i find.

anyone ever been? how long a drive from seattle? time of year for climbing? any guide available? a bunch of harder sport climbs there, from what I hear, and a bit steeper than smith?

on a roped climb, i've probably tried 20 times. on a boulder problem, maybe 50? on roped climbs, i kinda have a feeling as to whether or not it'll go for me pretty quickly or not. if it feels like it might be a long long process, i'd rather at this point in my life train and get more fit at home than hoof out to the climb to beat it into submission. but everyone's different. maybe go 24'll be the magic one for ya. good luck and fire!

there's only one size grigri, as far as i know, and i've used it down to a 9.1. i don't know if i'd recommend that though, since it feels a bit slick at that diameter. a friend doesn't have any qualms using it with his 9.1 i bought an eddy for skinny rope climbing, and that works really well.

hey orion, been hiding at home and getting ready for some work stuff coming up. was hurt too so didn't climb much the last coupla months. now back in it and going to smith for a week. you guys gonna be down? hope to see ya soon.

i think most of the cave will be dry. i've climbed there in downpours, and the tops of some routes were wet, but the cool middle routes were all dry. unless it's really really windy of course. the caves at vantage will be dry....

i've had it occasionally over the years from bouldering mainly. i've found lots of push-ups to help a lot for the spot you speak of. shoulder width on hand separation, sets of 20 to 30 a few times a week, and that's actually worked miracles of sorts for me and a few others i know. having a good deep tissue therapist has helped me a lot with tendinitis in other body parts. i can give you her name if you want. she's kind of expensive at 85 an hour, but worth it, and is covered by insurance. i've also heard that cortisone is usually a pretty bad idea. i've recently read that inflammation plays a lesser role in tendinitis than previously thought, meaning ice and such might not be so effective after all ( it seemingly hasn't helped me before). good luck.

It's kinda funny how the right used to be referred to as "realists", whereas Libs were the "Idealists". Democracy in Iraq, spreading like wild-fire!

Five best? Don't know about that, but I've had a lot of fun on the following (or if I didn't have fun ie. mewling like a kittie on Vanishing Point, then rewarding). Liberty Crack Chronic Yellow Fever Vanishing Point Cunning Stunt

GD, do yo think the US should have gone into Iraq in the first place?

Come on now... If he toned it down, the clinical diagnosis would become "passive/passive". Do the math....