Kimmo

To climb means to ascend. exactly. everything else is just conceptual identity seeking. you're a "climber" while you are actually engaged in the act of "climbing"; everything else is just conceptuaql carry-over baggage. and even if one adopts the silly moniker of "climber", it has nothing to do with what type of climbing one does.

so did you actually try to train and fast at the same time? i read interesting stuff about some norwegians i think who partook of some weight training and a 10 day fast, and actually increased muscle mass in the trained area.

weird. the "artist" in question: In 1984, at the age of 38, the artist participated in a 15-minute celebrity "Aerobathon" to raise funds for the American Heart Association. Afterwards, he was found dead in his car, and doctors determined by autopsy that he had suffered a heart attack.[2]

i haven't. like a fool, i couldn't recognize fine art when i saw it. i still suffer from this condition. aliens and shit. oh lord.

You just described 90% of the posters here, including yourself. you're not like that; you're a nice kitty.

You just described 90% of the posters here, including yourself. jb isn't like that (but his taste in art products is a little off).

rad man, nothing like sales to establish the validity of one's product. cue wal-mart comparison. popularity contests definitely tend towards the establishment of fine products; hell, it's the american way. and with your 5 sales, holy.....look out, ummm who the heck was that graphic designer doing woman posters in the '80's?

dude, tvash himself is a metaphor for atheism. with him in existence, i have a hell of a hard time believing in an intelligent creator.

gnarr

that seems logical, but what does it mean.

well what about the field. is it a hundred yard field or hundred meters.

explanation of my retort: what is to be called "art"? does everything (if properly "framed") qualify? (to me, the "framing" can be as interesting (or more so) as the "object" itself, but that's another discussion.) the problem i have with it is the same problem i have with tvash in general (on-line): an over-bearing display of "self", lacking in any subtlety. i don't like being hit over the head with someone's opinions any more than i like being hit over the head with a 50 pound study in over-wrought pretentiousness masquerading(?) as "art". he seems to wield everything (ideas, "art") like a neanderthal's club, smashing away in a fit of testosterone. monster truck art. trailer park art. wal-mart art with no self-recognition(?). but fuckin-a, he's having fun! seems to, at least. don't matter shit what i think: i gotta hand it to him that at least he's engaged and "creating" some "thing", however hideous it may be. more power to him. seriously. hell yeah. like fo sho.

is the cfl football the same size as the nfl football?

what is the longest cfl game ever?

i'm an agnostic. and an atheist.

hey don't flatter yourself buddy. i've seen your "art".

i'm not sure what extremes you speak of; i think i'm simply saying that to climb at a certain level takes a lot of practice or training or whatever the hell you wanna call it....commitment i guess. trying hard blah blah blah. an di don't think i said having some beers and food makes one a fat slob, did i. this is sounding silly now. shit, who cares what someone else does. if it inspires ya great, if it doesn't, great. a great thing about this life thingy is that we're pretty free to go for it in our own way, finding inspiration wherever we do. personally i'm quite interested in what someone who climbs 9a at 52 does. it's quite revealing (of a number of things!) to see the level of commitment.

i'm not worrying! But, you're a coach, right? football? would you like climbing offered as a competitive sport in high school? don't you think that would be fun to coach? or is that aspect of the sport anathema to you? i know you like the athleticism and the competition, having worked on boulder probs with you at the uw rock. oh btw, where's that keg of koenigshoeven?

he did say that with complete commitment he thinks anyone could. i don't know if i agree with him....but maybe.

woazers. century squats. that sounds ridiculously hard. yeah i don't know, the 5.13 varsity comment was rather spontaneous, but imagine if you would have had the same coaching and training in climbing as you did in running. i imagine you would have climbed 5.13 after two or three years?

two things, besides the already mentioned: 1. i doubt you were hospitalized for anything related to malnutrition; perhaps hypoglycemia? 2. sure, do whatever works for ya, but being fat ain't gonna work for ya. i'd say it's a rarity (has it been done?) for anyone over 10% rp'ing 5.14. 5.13? sure, you can drink your beer and generally be a slob, but shit, it's 5.13, which is probably like running a 5:30 mile. it would barely get you on a high school varsity climbing team (if there was such a thing).

your methodology is indicative of an "on your ass" strategy; proper protocol indicates an "in your ass" approach.

I doubt they have to fast like Kimmo to achieve that though. my purpose wasn't to lose weight at the time, and yeah i don't think someone who's running 100+ miles a week CAN fast.

my bad. elite marathoners average 3.3% body fat, per this article.

i call a giant BS on your 15% body fat on world class marathoners, at least during competition phases. check yer data on that. they tend closer to elite cyclists (duh, it's a long distance endurance affair where weight matters) at around 5 to 6%. what i meant by protecting laziness is that people sometimes get overly alarmed by things outside their comfort zone. eating seems to fall into this. "oh my god, if i don't eat for a day I'll DIE!". i've personally fasted for up to a week straight and felt great, and actually won a climbing contest on the 7th day of a fast once (that one was a 300 cal a day fresh juice fast, not just water like the other).