DirtyHarry

You guys should consider doing the Torment Forbidden Traverse. Definitly more bang for your buck if you're going up to the area anyway.

Or if Hitler and Stalin were not dellusional and paranoid and had made rational strategic decisions down the line.

He's not only a car salesman, but a motivational speaker too.

Sioux? Gay. Blackfoot could kick ass on the Sioux easy. Spartans. Those guys were badass.

Get a really cool hot girlfriend and then do something stupid to make her break up with you and then you will have tons of destructive self-hatred built up inside and nowhere to take it out except for climbing. Sketchy leads will go down like cold beers on a hot afternoon.

I might just have to walk downstairs and speak with those county 'missioners.

Mt. Goode is also a suggestion, though more of a rock route. I'd also reccomend looking in Kevin McClane's Alpine Select Instruction Manual for SW BC and north Washington.

Beckey route on Nooksack Tower.

If they could do that, they wouldn't have become lawyers in the first place.

They probably got shut down by weather, where as midwest dudes didn't. Appears logical to me. But what do I know, I'm no SCIENTIST.

Appears they have improved weather forecast for the weekend. Looks like the wet front will blow through by the then. Should be a great weekend in Squampton or Skaha. Take your pic.

From where? Yes it is. It's also in Montana. And not really that close to Whitefish. True. Don't know why I thought it was. Though it looks like its about 2 hrs from Sandpoint.

Probably don't want to buy the instruction manual, but maybe I should. Is forestland the boulders essentially at barney's or is it further above? I'll go check out mountain home road.

Besides Mazama, there's some good bouldering not too far up the Chewuch, and there's some really good bouldering way up the Chewuch if you want to drive that far. There's also some bouldering in Pipestone canyon. That's all I know.

Chumstick snag.

Kix, etc. - You ever climb on the mountain home road boulders? How are they, what they like? Other fav' areas around the icicle?

Yeah, I don't think its really all that funny.

How far is Whitefish? Lake Kukanuska is a pretty cool crag.

core.

I don't disagree. But unfortunately that's how our 2-party partisan politics works in contemporary America. I'm personally extremely critical of such bullshit, but even you have to agree that the right does the same exact shit to the left. And anyway, that's pretty much irrelevant to the points I'm making that the war was mishandled from the get go, regardless of partisan politics.

First, the Bush team underestimated the enemy and never understood the complexity of Iraqi politics. At the outset, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and his generals saw Iraqi Freedom as a continuation of the 1991 Gulf War. They believed that, as in 1991, the Republican Guard would be the primary adversary and that Baghdad was the "center of gravity," the capture of which would end resistance. As a result, they ignored indicators that the Iraqis had chosen to fight a different kind of war — an "asymmetric," unconventional one. Second, they failed to bring the right tools to the war, relying too much on technology. Rumsfeld's thinking about how to conduct the war was greatly influenced by his concept of military "transformation," which stressed speed and agility instead of mass. Accordingly, say the authors, the war was undertaken with the minimal acceptable force. Third, once things began to go badly, they failed to adapt to the new circumstances, remaining wedded to their prewar estimates and even canceling badly needed reinforcements. For instance, Rumsfeld canceled the scheduled deployment of the 1st Cavalry Division to Iraq just as it was becoming clear that more "boots on the ground" were necessary. Gordon and Trainor write that the chaos that followed the war "was not a matter of not having a plan but of adhering too rigidly to the wrong one." Fourth, the decision making process they employed discouraged alternative political and military perspectives. And finally, the Bush team continued to reject the need for nation-building, planning instead to leave reconstruction to the defeated Iraqis and allied nations that were ambivalent about the war at best. The failure to plan adequately for post-combat stability operations created the necessary, if not sufficient, conditions for the insurgency, which was exacerbated by the decision to disband the Iraqi army, placing 300,000 angry and armed men on the street. - Central points of "Cobra II" by Michael Gordon and General Bernard E. Trainor

this statement says nothing. the guy claims it's a disaster, without saying exactly why, and you believe it because you want to - you like the message. just because a general says it "is" doesn't make it so. I don't see a disaster. the occupation could have gone a lot better; it could have gone a lot worse too Come on, man, stop being such an ideologue. Its OK to be critical of Bush. Conservatives and Republicans are doing it too now.

"Strategically it has been a disaster, primarily because of a series of very bad decisions. The leader of the department of defence has to take responsibility." - Former Army General John Batiste

Ha Ha. I know who found it. It wasn't me though. ... some wiregates too.

there has been no utter disaster or failure in Iraq. it's gone about average. Well, I think that depends on what the definition of "is" is.