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I understand an accident, a person outdoors for example either hiking, climbing or whatever and they are equiped with gear & knowledge ends up twisting an ankle and being unable to walk out...send in SAR - no mandatory bill. but the person who is (clearly) in a situation where they have no training/gear or business being, like the above situation, I think they should pay one way or another...a fine perhaps, community service? When I said the commit about stupid people not having to pay I wasn't saying they were exempt,I was only trying to start a topic about it.

you are probably right about them trying again, Saddle rock is very visable from all over Wen. and they obviously had a good time on the decent so the temptation just might be to much. if they were injured during the operation, you know the city and county would have been help responsible. when climbing is a crime only criminals will go climbing

there was no bolt on top when I was there! I was with Chelan Co. SAR in the late 70's, no charge for service back then. I think the two should be given a bill to cover the equipment costs, whether or not they pay it is another story. but how much to charge for endangering the rescue personnel? Stupid people shouldn't necessarily pay for being that way, should they?

Ingalls is the main trail, you have to turn at the second right for Longs Pass. Slothrop's description is right on

hey Stefan, Saddle rock is in Wenatchee, on the south west corner. it's a big stack of choss, best avoided (I know from experience, I climbed it sans gear on a dare in 1977).

I agree, rapping is my BIGGEST fear about climbing. I have enjoyed plenty of long free rappels in the day but once again just last week at Erie I had that uneasy feeling on zig-zag, just as I weighted the rope that either the anchor would fail or maybe I had rigged my ATC wrong. This subject might make a good topic to discuss...worst raps

nice going boyz!

holey shiite, I wish I wuz taking a Ferris day today!

great timing with the TR, I am considering the same route next weekend (not mem day). I hope to attempt the Adams glacier but will decide once I get there...no pics??

not a bad idea for rescues, how about also using the chopper to haul garbage down from the upper camps? **Camp IV to chopper, please bring me a clean pair of socks along with a double hazlenut latte**

Great, thanks! Looks like I have a month to wait in order for the WR to dry out. Ingalls sure looks doable tho!

$10 windshirt! the whole family gets one now! I wonder how much for a custom logo??

Hey slothrop, what did the West Ridge of Stuie look like?

forget the dogs, I am perfecting a kite/sail that attaches to my pack. Once I get it worked out I'll be able to skip all the way to the summit then skim all the way down

my guess is it's from the 60's? I started climbing in the mid 70's and used a wood handled ax but this thing is a lot older than the new one I had then. it has a long, straight pick, with no teeth and a old school type spike on the end and a fairly wide adz. I will try the wd-40 idea tonight and thought about using something like a s-o-s pad. I found it in an area where there were crevases, just below the high camp, a bit off the beaten path. can't imagine it was strapped to a pack and fell off, given the slope angle and location. But where it came from or how long it layed there, I haven't a clue. I haven't found any marks to ID the ower. I'll clean it and post a picture this week

yes, pick up a copy of Nelson's guide book, if you finish everything there, start on the green Beckey guide. Head up the mountain loop hwy, check out Vesper peak. Many, many other climbs in the area

ah yes, that should do the job I would think. sounds like a good evening project while sitting on the deck

while decending the CD route on Baker a few years ago I found an old, water-logged wooden ice ax just below high camp. It was swollen and rusty. I packed it home and pretty much forgot about it until a recent shed cleaning. The handle has shrunk back to normal size but the metal parts are pretty rusty. I used a nylon tire brush and knocked off enough rust to see a stamp on both sides of the pick. One side says 'Zurich' with a diamond shaped shield and the other other is stamped with 'made in Austria'. It is a very long ax with a long pick (no teeth) the leather wrist strap did not survive. So here is my question, what should I use to safely remove the rust? I want to try to ID the maker and possible age of this antique tool. I will post pictures once I have it cleaned up. thanks!

I finally got mine to come off, it made a sucking noise as I pulled it off. I was going to save it but my dog ate it.

right on Ed! congrats for getting all 14 done (and without bottled o2!)and I hope he has a safe & speedy trip home

this seems really cool huh? I wanted a whippet but now I can use the poles I already have.

SOS, metal blade...kinda wired T handle tho. I've used it to dig caves/igloo. no problem yet with ice http://www.sos-find.com/pages/frameset.html

I took my son when he was 12 (some 11 years ago) to Del Campo around the 4th of July. He had been rock climbing a few times and did well with the scramble...didn't care much for the hike in or out tho. I think it's a great scramble and a fine place to introduce kids to the fine art of getting high

that sound MUCH better!

taken from the Wenatchee National Forest web site: N F Teanaway Road #9737 – Drivable to just beyond the Teanaway Guard Station. This leaves 6 miles of snow bound road before reaching Esmeralda and Ingalls Lake trailhead. Also, there is a landslide ½ mile before that trailhead blocking this roadway. I don't know the trail condition but would like too!