larrythellama

if you could provide me some more information on the yuppie thing that would be great, i believe both of you are just jealous of those people. i climb with some so called 'yuppies' and have found them very compentent climbers, who are not afraid to push themselves and do it in a responsible way. they prolly did not become 'ric' without using some sort of good judgement. i think that your demographics play into the ingnorance.

i don't see how 'yuppies' climbing has anything to do with helmet wearing? are you saying that they are more dangerous then 'poor' people who climb? that makes zero sense. and then laws agaist you playing with your children? that is sooo far fetched, almost paranoid. it's a personal choice for a climber to wear or not to wear a helmet. why do you care? to ride a motorcycle you have to get an endorsement on your license, you need to prove to the powers that be that you can follow the rules and regulations of the activity.

kaa-boom!

yeah mike you fight for the almighty dollar!

nice work guys..better a tad wet then baking hot in my opinion!

Yup the russians have killed many checnyans, children, women and men. its seems from my little reading on the subject that the majority of the issue lies with russia's occupation of checnya. seems like a simple idea to remove your presence there and stop seeing children slaughtered. i am sure scott will say it is more complicated then that and what not, but i dont see how so? the imperalistic time perios in the world is other, now it is time for people to allow distinct peoples to have their own lands in a way that is not controlled by outside forces. the problem is that there is too much mineral wealth in many of these poor(?) countries for the christains to ignore. when was the last time the issues in indonesia seemed to be any of importance to the christains? another tangent i cannot see how these 3rd world countries who have a large majority of the worlds mineral wealth still remain soo poor? wouldnt one think that since their countries are being rapped by christain companies that they would be reapping profits from the action? hmmm......

since drul is a hermaphadite the photographing would be tasteful!

graupel i knew of 4 people with them in slc last winter and 2 of them had breaks, so in my world that would be 50%. both had broken toe pieces. have heard of other breaks as well. nothing like plastic to make life better.

i heard that the naxos has something like 50% of their bindgins break. even if they are beefed up the design still appears to lead to failure. i have freerides on bigs and can keep up with pretty much anyone skinning, so i only see weight being an issue on multiday deals.

Ben - Greg's never cared before... why should he start now? -S

Too bad. You should find someone else to climb with. -S

just shaped up and is gonna be better then anyones else!

climb the choss next to it.

Awww... Greg, I love you too!! -S

sauna. sow-nuh NOT saw-nuh!!!! -S

The average human body contains about 5 Liters of blood. -S

why dont you do it then nolse.

the oprah route is super soft for the grade, more like 5.8 with a 5.10 move thrown in. you can tell by 1st ascent team that it is overgraded.

a double rack, hahahahaha!

in that case bring a machete to clear a path too.

index is usually better then people think in the winter, tho we would not want that to get out and have the people from seattle out spoiling the fun.

i believe suicide and tahquitz might be closed due to high fire danger so you might want to check that out b4 making the drive.

lovers leap is your best for cooler temps easily 10-15 degrees cooler then the valley. super close to the road. tho it gets quite busy on weekends. also courtwright has alot of good climbing at a high alititude close to the road. as does calaveras dome. donner has alot of good climbing tho it is all quite short. cardnial pinnacle just above the buttermilks is another good option. as well as rock creek above tom's place has some great cragging. pm me as i live down here now.

So CBS are you stating that top ropes are not a valid ascent?

It's wet most of the time anyways...