selkirk

It doesn't matter where they are IMHO Well behaved dogs and owners Badly behaved dogs and owners owners need a beating!

must add Avocado

I didn't really like Klahanie personally. Overly repetetive and made my ankles hurt! Thought about 25 yards to climbers right is Cardhu Crack which was a blast!

It always amused me that the guidebook called that a "fist" crack, not to mention 5.8 You can get some nice knee bar / no-hands rests on it though! And easily toprope-able by climbing Mushmaker at 5.7 which is next door, and a fun little hand crack in it's own right

it's so cute when they chest beat And I'd read the article that Dane posted. It's a good one.

I had about the same experience a couple of years ago flying to Denver to go ice climbing in Ouray with a buddy. So not only were there lots of metal bits, most of them were damn sharp! I was pretty sure there was no way in hell they'd let me take ice tools as carry-on TSA just left a note saying the bag had been searched but no damage to speak of. I'd just say if anything is delicate do what you can to pad it.

I think with Avalanche danger it's always a check and verify process. The NWAC website is a great starting place and is probably good for a go / no-go decision in Seattle. Once you're there though you should absolutely be checking snow conditions and digging a couple of pits on representative slopes / exposures to be sure. IMHO the only defense against avalanche is information and a willingness to go home and drink beer.

The smallest Zero cam looks frightens me! It would look more at home on a key-chain than a climbing rack That said, I do love me Zero's! (though I love me some master cams too!) Zero's from blue on down Master Cams / TCU's from Blue on up

I'd be interested in a few, but certainly don't need the full bucket! If you decide to part it out a bit please repost! (Maybe limit it to a minimum of 5 or 10 pins? per person?)

Definitely a WC. Scratched up silver (not the fancy new colored anodized) should have a purple sling, roughly fist sized? Josh

In general less is more! That said I'd gather everything you think that you'll need to take with you, go down to REI and try cramming it all in to a few packs. What ever it fits into comfortably, I'd buy a pack a few liters smaller and figure out how to make it fit anyway. I've taken Personally I've had good luck with as small as a 30L pack for light overnight alpine rock trips.

who the hell still has Sticht plates?

mmm.... Dalwhinnie 15 :tup: Macallan 18 :tup: Laphroig 10 but not for the faint of heart! I was having a little a couple years ago and Mrs. Selkirk decided she wanted to try. I poured a little snifter neat, and before I could tell her to sip slowly she gunned it She eventually started breathing again but it took a few minutes Have yet to try the others but they're on the list now!

Steel or aluminum?

My parents where in Florida (i was just a baby) when Ted Bundy was executed. Prior to that my father had been a passive supporter of the death penalty. After watching the fervor and the blood lust that Bundy's execution drew from the people he changed his mind. The world may not be a lesser place (and even this could be argued), but there are people who are now lesser for applauding at has death.

what he said! From a practical standpoint it doesn't make sense. Let's spend more time, effort, an money to kill someone then to let them stay in prison? I would tend to view life in prison in many ways as a better punishment. It offers the opportunity for self redemption if they choose to take it, and if they don't then they can rot in situ. From an ethical standpoint, taking a life is taking a life, whether it was directed by the state or not. War, and conflict is a different basket, but the death penalty is in cold blood. It's a tragedy, and a waste. From a prevention standpoint, I think it's been pretty clearly determined that the death penalty is not a deterrant. The people who commit these crimes don't have the forethought to think through the consequences of their actions, or are so arrogant to believe that the rest of us are stupid and they would never be caught.

Has anybody Tried out the the EB Rainier Guide pants yet? I recieved a set for X-mas, but also just managed to pick up an older set of Mountain Hardwear Argon Ice pants and need to make a decision about which to keep! Their damn near identical in feel and fabric density. Visual differences boil down to zippers, a belt, and about 2oz in favor the Argon Ice, but both are nice trim, clean, light hardshell pants.

mmm bacon .....

Mrs. Selkirk and I might be interested as well, and have a 6 week old at the moment.

Mrs. Selkirk and I might be interested as well, and have a 6 week old at the moment.

look what my wife got me!! and she decided we needed a digital SLR to document said little one, so i got two new toys for Christmas oh and on X-mas eve i officially became the Godfather

I think it's appropriate to seperate "climbers" from "ice climbers". Anyone who climbs Ice (especially in a place where the ice as bad as Washington) is a very special breed of friggin idiot

I'd never argue against a cell phone or a PLB being useful. ( I typically climb with at least one cell phone in the party, even in remote area's). But does having one change the final outcome of the accident for the victim / rescue-ee?

This same question has been running through my head ever since the MLU discussion first came up. It seems like PLB / MLU's are great if your lost and need someone to find you, but I have yet to here of a climbing rescue where "lost" is the problem. It's usually, rockfall, icefall, crevasses fall, avalanche, or a significant climber fall all of which involved a major trauma. That coupled with the fact that climbing rescues take many hours after the rescue is initated at best, and days if the weather isn't cooperative, and anything that would be life threatening in the front country is likely fatal. For climbers, it seems like MLU's / PLB's are more like a body recovery tool and I'm reluctant to require people to carry gear for that purpose. For sailors and boaters where PLB's are required, it's a different story again. I expect that what they are protecting against is a motor going dead or a mast breaking leaving the boat dead in the water, and your effectively "lost" and just need somebody to come get you.

Sorry, really need the hammer, not a different adze