Ricardo_Montalban

i'm saying the foundation of the system is us; the consumer. don't get me wrong sc, i'm not trying to throw stones at anyone. scenario: -resort-x is bad because they want to add lift lines, hotels, etc. folks get angry and cry out for a boycott and go to resort-y -resort-y is somehow considered more ecologically responsible (or 'good', or worthy of your $$) because they aren't planning an expansion. my point is; both resorts destroyed ecological functions and you can't point fingers at one and not the other because of the time of destruction. boycott none or boycott all! I think the best method of protest is to counterfeit passes and distribute. 1. ride free, 2. meadows (...uuhh, i mean resort-x) records lower sales (which is the goal of a boycott), and 3. they expend more resources accomodating the renegade riders

you mean the system of giving him your money so he can continue his maniacal developing? Fuck Meadows! yeah, i know...i'll still ride there

Screw GM foods, we need to GM ourselves into super efficient nutrient absorption machines.

cold temperatures decrease the pressure of the cannister, which decreases the temperature of the gas, which decreases the pressure of the cannister, which decreases the temperature of the gas, which decreases the pressure of the cannister, which decreases the...yeah yeah yeah they used to make the cannisters a long and narrow shape that was perfect fit for a beer coozy and that helped. i can only find the short fat ones now. next stove i get will be hand pressurized

how is it divied up?

FS timber sales have ALWAYS been a huge net loss. fishing license $$ go to the DFW. I have tried for years to find out where the Forest Pass funds go to no avail. are they going towards the trails and TH's I use? probably not. I'd have no problem paying if they did.

it was a political statement Bears Against Bush!!

Mazamas are located in portland. some people like their style, some don't.

DNC: http://www.skywriting.com/misc/pics/free-speech-pen/ Bush: http://www.amconmag.com/12_15_03/feature.html and the answer is...neither

Zima

now that's creepy!

curious... are you guys referring to terrain, ethics, overcrowding, other?

there is absolutely no doubt who is the greatest political buffoon of our times. GW has surpassed Quayle by leaps and bounds. how's this for a not unusual stupid quote... link

bragg rules!

phish was great in 1990, seeing them with 100 other people. the bigger the venue, the worse they got

you may want to take a closer look at your timetable. it is 3 weeks and 6 days tippy top???

so...since i'm in the minority i should keep my opinions to myself? i thought this was a discussion. swaterfall: i completely agree that there are more pressing 'wilderness' detractors than the registers, however; 1. that is not the subject of this thread, and 2. one issue doesn't render the other moot

As the length of this thread shows, not everyone agrees. what's your point?

I value a wilderness area without litter, as I'm sure many others do. Too much trash encountered can destroy (or at least scar) that experience (unless I find a Hustler!).

how are registers NECESSARY for anyone???

most often i don't. when i'm on a trail i do expect to see the usual crap along a trail like trash, cig butts, poop/tp, etc. and i do my best to collect and remove that trash (except for the poop). where would you like me to send them? edit: good idea AF, i'll send them to the mountaineers, COD

I believe that registers are trash and am surprised to see so many contrary opinions. The only benefit of a register (that I have heard so far) is inspiring newbie climbers by reading entrys and making their own. Otherwise, the 'first ascent', 'a historical record' for proof, and 'it's a tradition' reasons are solely to stroke your ego. Who the fuck cares if you have FA, or have a record from 3 years ago so you can prove that you summited. wilderness areas are set aside for visitors looking for a wild experience. encountering motorized vehicles, large parties, and trash all detract from the definition of 'wild'...which is why they're banned. Leaving trash behind is also illegal and unethical. Registers also take away from the experience I consider 'wild'. Does NOT having a register take away from your wilderness experience? Larry the Tool & AlpineFox, let me know if you want another garbage hauler on your next cleaning expedition.

I'm tired of this christian right-wing directed 'scientific' research. She purposely left out the electricity!?!?!! If only she added electricity to the charcoal and vitamins...who know's what crazy organism she could have given life to!!

hopefully that trash was removed and properly disposed of. nice tr ephraim!

!! whoo hoo!! my first unless i'm missing something, that site only describes forces required to pull the weight. i didn't see anything about forces of the weight and hauling the weight against the anchor/s. not saying you're wrong, just still not convinced.