Bogen

Are they really that bad?

Sorry, I had screwed with those pictures, now they're back. As you can see, the gift is in. I would like to climb this, but have no experienced partners. I will make time...

Black Tusk. I read somewhere that it is the single "most-climbed" peak in BC. It should be in any guide you pick up.

The Theft isn't quite continuous, but maybe you can get past those bits??? Sorry about image quality.

You wanna go up there with me? Pick a day!

I wondered about that. Have you found, in your 32 years, that increasing numbers have changed your climbing habits?

So... is this something we don't take seriously cuz there's nothin to be done about it anyway? Not that I'm stressed about it, I just got to wondering last weekend.

Were you reading the news, or googling for milf?

recall on recently made Barryvox opto 3000.

I though it would be worse than it is, but it is not really worse than most deserts. It's like a warm, rich caramel pie with thin, crispy crust, and vanilla ice cream.

The noob that I took climbing last weekend is a bit of a techno geek, and took gps waypoints everywhere we went, and loved having his gps plugged into the laptop running mapping software as we drove. He had an idea of putting together a cyberguide replete with gps mapping, pictures of approaches and routes, etc. I suppose that day is coming, and it got me thinking. My immediate reaction was negative, because there's already too many bloody people looking for ice in SWBC, and making it easier or more accessable for more people makes it less accessable for me. On the other hand, Don's guide and Lyle's map make it pretty damn accessable now. And what kinda hypocrite would I be to discourage his idea, as I sit and spray my own conditions reports all over the web. I wouldn't be able to concentrate my climbing into the funnest bits without the support of Don and Lyle, how can I not pass that on. I know many of the people on this board have been climbing in this area alot longer than I have, don't you ever get the urge to keep it secret? I know you do have secret areas, but I mean bringing back conditions reports, on known areas. Or even lying. Should I keep my mouth shut about what a great beginner area Hell Creek is? Every year there's more and more climbers. What is the end result? or goal? Will access increase? For instance maybe if there is enough ice-climber money coming into Lillooet, the district will see the benefit and start clearing Phair creek road. Maybe a greater climber population will push the accessable recreational area farther into the back country. Is that good? The noob I took up is psyched, enough that he is buying quarks, probably tomorrow. That makes 4 or 5 people over the years that I've gotten hooked on ice climbing alone, never mind the dozens of people I've introduced to rock climbing. I use and post conditions reports, helping and accepting help in finding good spots to climb. Therefore I have to accept some responsibility for the crowds that I quietly curse sometimes. On one of the last weekends of last season we drove by the rambles and there were 15 cars parked there (all washington) As much as I enjoy the social aspect of climbing, where does all this end? Should we be thinking about expansion of our climbing community, and what it means in the long run?

Or make hot, wet love in the kitchen

A bottle of vodka? Haha. I was thinking brandy actually, and the vodka for anasthetic in case its as gross as I think it will be. As far as "garbage soup" I think that recipe rocks, I'm gonna try it. All soup is garbage soup, ChrisT, have you ever worked in a restaurant? What do think a "stock pot" is. Any busy kitchen I ever saw had a bucket where things like celery tops and carrot ends went, and lots of over crisped bacon and chicken bones and everything wasted but remotely edible would eventually get cooked for a day or two to create soup stock.

Hey, you know I might just try to get rid of those damn brussel sprouts in my freezer that way... What could I add that would make that work?

Boring. My ex's mom made it that way.

OMG don't get me started!! Potatos, leeks, cook in chicken broth with pepper and spices (maybe coriander or rosemary,) then run it through the food processor til creamy and reheat. Make fresh bread for dunking. mmmmm! You can put just about anything in with ichiban and make good soup (except tuna - just doesn't go somehow) but my favorite is to throw in a can of baked beans in tomato sauce. excellent camp soup.

We camped out at Marble Canyon fri night, climbed very brittle ice on saturday. Went up Bridge river on Sunday. The gift looks like it is all in. Anyone want to do it with me, any day during this cold snap? Old dogs new picks is in nicely, and looks cool. We hiked up Hell Creek, and climbed there. The approach was interesting, with ice breaking underneath us sometimes despite the cold temps. As I was climbing the falls, I could hear the volume of water under the ice increasing, and the air got warmer till our breath wasn't visible. Sure enough, the ice was even less reliable on the way out - the top of one 5 meter section fell away beneath my boot as I stepped on it to downclimb. We rapped some sections, down-climbed others and escaped without serious incident (other than the runs the next day from drinking out of Hell Creek)

Windjammer inn, about 14th and Main. Great fish and chips too. Sooo good!! Served with 2 scoops of ice cream.

Thanks

Thanks again. We're headed for Marble tomorrow morning, and OJ sunday. At least we'll do something. Happy New Year!!

What does R in box 4 (length of season) signify? Rare?

Umm...that'd be at least 3 days for us, not including driving. But sure! Conditions will have to improve, Avy hazard around there is through the roof right now. How about a few days in the Bow valley - couple days of waterfall ice and an easy peak or 2?

I just called whistler/blackcomb about farmed ice, as the noob I had roped for this weekend is stoked now. They said that you have to hire a guide, and that they would prefer to take clients to Pemberton, where the ice is better. What do think they are referring to, and what about this mythical ice farm on Blackcomb?

Hit the trade shows and film fests, talk to people. Where are you? There are some retail placements around Vancouver. Don't let these horny jackasses dampen your spirits. I knew a man in university, majoring in zoology, who said right from year 1 that he was going to be a park ranger in Jasper. Of course, thats what every young student dreams of, and we laughed and said "sure, sure." I mean, nobody just becomes a park ranger. He went to Jasper his first summer break, and volunteered his services, and the same the next summer, and the next, working his ass off for nothing, a smile and cheery disposition the whole time. Went straight to work as a full time park ranger upon graduating, not more than 25 years old. So, go for it, jump in with both feet. Your imagination is your only limit, etc. etc..

Thanks, I almost left this morning, but recalled that you were going, so I checked here. I owe you a beer. Although I wonder, would Oregon Jack be in?