dmuja

KIRO channel 7 in seattle had the most awsome video taken from a plane. Beautiful explosions on the cone but only lasted a couple minutes. sweet!

Kerry won hands down! Bush came off, well..., like a retarded chimp. (I do like George though, 'specially that he likes to kill fascist muslims. However, Kerry is much better for the environment and frankly, I'm tired of feeling protective of the retarded chimp in the whitehouse - I'll vote fr JK. If Don Rumsfeld was an environmentalist, he'd be da man!!

At last years fest, I heard em tellin a couple dirty jokes. Likeable guy despite those stupid "Tram to Muir" ideas and such that seem to occasionally come out of the Whittacker camp.

Remember all the news repeorts recently (last couple years)about how "ski resorts will have to close" especially at lower elevations because of global warming eg higher snow levels? Well guess what solution these bozos came up with..

Thnx Joe, People can send letters to the editor of the YAKIMA HERALD here----> http://www.yakima-herald.com/YHR/info.html$lettereditor

There has been a proposal made to develop the South Side of Mount Adams into a ski resort. A monetary offer has apparently been made to the Yakima Tribe in exchange for the south side of the mountain including the common route (Lunch Counter, Pikers Peak etc..) A ski lift would be built to an elevation of 11,000 feet (I assume to the top of the "false summit" of Pikers Peak). Feel free to provide more information here if anyone has some, I will do the same. Obviously I am strongly opposed to this and will try to provide as much info as I can for others to express their views to those with the decision making powers on this proposal. more to follow.....

This still goin? not cool to get beat up for getting too personal on a message board, not cool going to jail for making threats to individuals getting too personal on a message board, and neither option is very fun either when "good climbers go bad". Take a chill pill Bill(s), pologize, let the shit role off yr back, and have a beer...

and you get up and go to work for....? money bad.., bad money, bad money

Comrade, your heavy handed tacitics are undermining the dictatorship of the proletariat. Of coarse we must use any means necessary to further our cause, but the revolution has not yet taken hold in all parts of the north west sector. I urge you to go back underground and continue to conceal our noble intentions until the capitalist pigs are ripe for the slaughter. Perhaps you can take a position as an aid for a Seattle city council member. We have several brothers and sisters established there. Long live the revolution!

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Yawn, c'mon brothers, yawn, yawn, let em go...broth...yawn...snore..zzzzzzzz

Let me know when the muslim "John Brown" makes an appearance ok? I won't be holding my breath.

I know I'm gonna get trashed by most of you PNW lefties but I don't really care. So, Here's a nice little moment brought to you by "the religion of peace" http://www.gzt.ru/phrep/data/43otez_reut.jpg Sorry, I wanted to post the pic itself, Ive tried to post html links here before and I've not been able to do it for some reason (though I can on other sites)

Just wondering if people think this is a good time of year to practice (toprope) on the coleman ice fall (Mt Baker)? I haven't done this yet, but figured I could sink some pickets and screws on some solid looking ice, rap down, self belay and climb up. Is this a really bad idea? Is there ice there that is stable right now? Of coarse just stepping on a glacier solo is a risk so what if there wer 2 of us? (I'm serious in my question, I can't wait for the beating to come

My apologies if I sidetracked the thread here, sorry (got some pretty strange PMs, pissed some people off I guess). Thread topic is per BreezyD looking to partner with someone for beginning Trad...see post #1 Doug

I already posted this on the "partners" newbie thread but figured I'd put it here too.... I'd like to do "da toof" if we could get an early start to beat the Mounties. Or I wouldn't mind just "practicing" on the mountaineers dome (buttress). Someone PM (or EM) me please if I can come too. I have some experience (mostly sport craggs and alpine snow), have rack, can build 3-4-5 point mulitiDir anchors. I been wanting to do the "Tooth" for a while now but it seems like most "rock gods" just yawn at it -yes I know its a 5.4, but it is exposed, it is multipitch , and it is a mountain. I'd probably do GNSlab too if that happens. And hey, ther's now a weekly noobs "girls" climb, why not a ("politically correct" non gender specific ;-) "easy climbin" group type thing that meets every week or 2. This wouldn't mean you can just show up and be an idiot etc.. but just a group of *serious* climbers that still lack some of the experience that I have found at places like index LTW. I'm mean, not all climbers started out in Yosemite, are 5'10 140 lbs, are 20-30 years old and or mentioned in Jim Nelson books. (BTW, I hope I don't get tagged as asshole for pointing this out - as I really would like to climb with you guys - but I've run into this kinda thing at index; A group of "experienced" climbers doing a 5.9 to 5.10+ route guy with their girl-friends or girls with their boy-friends, whatever. They were good *physical* climbers, but they were laughing and making jokes the whole time they were climbing and belaying. all the sudden I here "clink - whizzz - chink" etc..as a nut goes flying down nearly onto the belayer. The climber says "oops" to the group's chorus of laughter. Just minutes later - following more laughs and jokes - I hear "look out" and down comes what looked like a pack to me, again nearly missing the belayer. "Hey its getting dangerours down here" one of the group says, then more laughter. As I was there just to practice anchor building with my brother we decided to stay as far from these "experts" as we could. This is the kind of thing I'd like to avoid in a group climb, wether with experienced or novice climbers. CLIMB FIRST, PARTY LATER. Doug

I'd like to do "da toof" if we could get an early start to beat the Mounties. Or I wouldn't mind just "practicing" on the mountaineers dome (buttress). Someone PM (or EM) me please if I can come too. I have some experience (mostly sport craggs and alpine snow), have rack, can build 3-4-5 point mulitiDir anchors. I been wanting to do the "Tooth" for a while now but it seems like most "rock gods" just yawn at it -yes I know its a 5.4, but it is exposed, it is multipitch , and it is a mountain. I'd probably do GNSlab too if that happens. And hey, ther's now a weekly noobs "girls" climb, why not a ("politically correct" non gender specific ;-) "easy climbin" group type thing that meets every week or 2. This wouldn't mean you can just show up and be an idiot etc.. but just a group of *serious* climbers that still lack some of the experience that I have found at places like index LTW. I'm mean, not all climbers started out in Yosemite, are 5'10 140 lbs, are 20-30 years old and or mentioned in Jim Nelson books. (BTW, I hope I don't get tagged as asshole for pointing this out - as I really would like to climb with you guys - but I've run into this kinda thing at index; A group of "experienced" climbers doing a 5.9 to 5.10+ route guy with their girl-friends or girls with their boy-friends, whatever. They were good *physical* climbers, but they were laughing and making jokes the whole time they were climbing and belaying. all the sudden I here "clink - whizzz - chink" etc..as a nut goes flying down nearly onto the belayer. The climber says "oops" to the group's chorus of laughter. Just minutes later - following more laughs and jokes - I hear "look out" and down comes what looked like a pack to me, again nearly missing the belayer. "Hey its getting dangerours down here" one of the group says, then more laughter. As I was there just to practice anchor building with my brother we decided to stay as far from these "experts" as we could. This is the kind of thing I'd like to avoid in a group climb, wether with experienced or novice climbers. CLIMB FIRST, PARTY LATER. Doug

I'm putting together an 8k expedition....ummm, I'd better do a search first Doug

Perfect training for Denali

Nice Job! Hung in there till you got it! Nice pics and it looks like you had the exact same slot at Muir that we did on June 21st see pic attch

I read not to use a sharpie on the instructional for my rope. I just divide 198 feet(60m) by 4 = 50 feet(aprox). Fig 8 knot (for the lead) then flake out 10 arm spans of rope. Put in a butterfly or fig 8 (for the second) then another 10 arm spans. Put in the butterfly or fig 8 (for the third) then another 10 arm spans. Put in the last fig 8 (for the forth climber). A full arm span is about 6 feet avrg. I just shorten the arm span a liitle (about a foot) and you have 5 foot intervals to count out. Not exactly text book....

Just a friendly thought BreezyD; next time you guys might want to stay an entire day above 10 thou and drink like 6 quarts of water each while aclimatizing. Well, just drink alot! When my brother and I did it last month we almost sprinted to the top ;-) I chalk this up to hydration and aclimatization. I'm convinced that this was the trick, just based on knowing my body and past climbs. Sounds like twas a beautiful morning on the cleaver! Doug

Ok, I know its not - but I'm just wondering about the Exum Ridge route of the Grand T. If you've done it, some first hand beta might help... dmuja

If the park service would only quit hiring such HOT as in HOT! ranger babes maybe the climbers wouldn't hang out at high camp so much... gerrr..

Guides cost $$$ Mentors cost