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A bit more info (unconfirmed) from NWAC... EXCERPT FROM NWAC WEBSITE ..http://www.nwac.us/products/SABSEA "..NORTHWEST WEATHER AND AVALANCHE CENTER SEATTLE WASHINGTON 845 AM PST SUN FEB 25 2007.. SNOWPACK ANALYSIS Most areas in the Olympics and Cascades near and west of the crest received 5 to 10 inches of new snow over the past 24 hours with greater amounts received near Crystal Mountain where up to 14 inches accumulated. The slopes east of the Cascade crest received about 4 to 8 inches. Most of the recent snow fell during the day Saturday with only light accumulations overnight and early Sunday with diminished winds. Strong winds and warmer temperatures and moderate to heavy snowfall early Saturday caused a significant increase in danger, especially in areas exposed to southerly winds. These conditions lead to a fatal avalanche accident on a slope in the Mt Rainier National Park accessed from the Crystal Mountain area Saturday afternoon. Details are still to be provided however preliminary information indicated that a skier triggered a 3 foot slab on a recently wind loaded WNW aspect at about 6700 feet. The victim was caught and carried a very long way down the slope and may have died as a result of trauma suffered in the slide..."

Tonight, spending the evening sorting and re-organizing my gear... SHIT! I HAVE 5 PACKS! And that doesn't include the crappy ones I use for cragging (I have 3 of those)! WHY?

Oly, the more time you spend at the Alki Tavern the better photogartist you become.

Apparently a skier has died in an avalanche at Crystal Mt today (according to king 5 news). Report stated the skier was "out of bounds" in an un-avy controlled area. Was wearing an avy beacon - according to the report - which helped searchers locate the body. Avy forecast was for "considerable" late Friday night and going higher for Saturday. Todays forecast was for "High" danger level and an avy warning had been issued for today. Avalanche Forecast http://www.nwac.us/products/archive/SABSEA_archive.htm

Omega Pacific Ice Screws - Do they have a down side? Seems like they go in easier, faster, and would hold stronger with their deeper threads than turbos by far! And way cheaper too. Comments?

Ive done the CD in April, maybe this year too, bring snow shoes. Not familiar w/Easton route. As for avy hazards, if the terrain is 30+ degrees then the weather and snow pack have to be in your favor. If they are, then its a go. Skins are prolly even better than snow shoes but then I don't ski.

females -- the main makers and users of spears among the Senegalese chimps -- tend to be the innovators and creative problem solvers Men, We must ban together! Keep them in the kitchen! the hairy little nymphs.

Yes, this isn't the "information age" so much as it is the "information that I find that supports my opinion" age. that was funny tv, im pro phylactic

You mean like the LRWASFR "lonely rich widows at altitude support and first responders society"?

Better not be a wanker or a gumby living in leadville

Im well aware of break down wfinley, of coarse I didn't really mean private "companies" but rather mountain rescue volunteers. The only grounds people have for complaining about mountain rescues is "I don't want my tax dollars etc..." Read the P-I poll comment page in spray to see an example. As it is now, we're about to be told what gear we have to bring and maybe eventually a lot more by people who barely climb out of bed in the morning much less have a clue about mountaineering. This latest incident has brought the spotlight back (no thanks to the rescuees) on this perennial stupid question of "rescue costs to the tax payer" and Im just looking for a solution. What ever works. Without rescue expectaions and guarentees, people would be more careful, more studied, OR less able to claim fault when they fuck up.

Amen to that brother!

Denver is 7,000 feet? Didnt know that

Not a joke. Im sure we could pool all our resources for some choppers, between the AAC and all the other organizations and the volunteer mountain rescue teams that are already organized. Im just saying that this is one area where I would greatly prefer privatization over regulation by a bunch of clueless whining know-it-alls.

Heres the legeslation I would like to see pass--> "No publicly funded agency of any level of government, be it township, city, county, state or federal, shall expend or devote any resources what so ever, be it time, monies, transportation, equipment, or personnel, of any and all kind, to any emergency rescue request, or request for assistance of whatever nature, by any persons what so ever, which occurs higher than 7,000 feet above sea level. Nor will there be any responsibility of, or liability on the part of, said agencies for fulfilling and conforming to this regulation." Climbers should rescue themselves, period. No public money, no grounds for whining and bitching. You could call it the "Freedom" bill, kinda like the "patriot act" of 2007.

Feel free to mark the photo taken Saturday the 17th

wfinley, post of the day! At least they're calling them "hikers" now.

Hey barkerspew, Kiss my ass. You can do it non violently if you prefer. Otherwise, Im into suffering as well.

Unions recently became fat and lazy and unfortunately part of the problem. Having said that, I think they are still needed and we all owe some debt to them for helping to form a "middle class" in the US. The modern trend has been more and more wealth going toward the rich and less to the "non-rich" (except for Prez Clintons days) If unions were gone completely I think you would eventually have rich, poor and no in between. .02$

Today show and Ellen Degenerate huh? Gee Kevbone, please pass along our heartfelt thanks to your friend and the group, they'er such great representatives of the sport. Maybe they can write a survival book about their epic battle with Momma Nature on Mt Doom and we can all learn the details of how they "did everything right".. Only in Hollywood

Good luck trying to organize climbers, not saying "don't try", just that its quite the task. BTW I posted something similar after the December "event". I think the solution is to have a jury of 12 climbers waiting back at the lodge for an instant trial of whom ever got rescued. If they'er found "stupid" and their incident "preventable" then they get dragged back up the mountain and left for dead because of all the bad pub they brought upon the sport - and then we get to shoot the media ass clowns as well just for the fun of it. good times..

In my country, there is no word for "work". We just say, "Im going to get stuck on I-5 now dear, goodbye til next week".

These are 2 completely different events and circumstances..any number of things could have gone wrong with the 3 in December - we don't know. When I was up there Saturday however, every snowshoein, skinnin up, mom and there kid new what was comming in and that Saturday was the only day to do what ever you wanted to do on the mountain (including descend).

We could just tax anyone who knows kevbone.. Its funny, as long as we never have to use emergency services like police/fire dept people are happy to pay for them (or too stupid to notice that they ARE AREADY paying for them. Then when they actually get busy and do something, certain people start complaing about the "extra costs"..once again ..DUMB

Oly did you snap that at the Alki Tavern right before the West Seattle High drop out clubbed you with a stick for your wallet?