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why doesnt UW perform their research in an abandoned mine? A friend who works for the Bureau of Abandoned Mine Reclamation (covering Utah and Nevada) told me that collegiate research (everything from astrophysics to biology to geosciences) has been performed and is currently being performed in abandoned mines at various location throughtout the Great Basin region.

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next time your waitin' for the bus or sittin' on the hopper crack this book open-

That what I thought when I used it. It just so happen to be a Desert (Wingate Sandstone) tower where the Mallard was rendered a POS.

pika mallards? I levered one out and I was rewarded with a memorable experience. should have used a nut instead. useless on any pitch past vertical, unnecessary weight on the rack, sell them at the next gear swap. i'm skeptical on alot of iron found in Josh's bag-o-tricks.

weather averages for september in the City

A Developed skill/knowledge of rope management and 'honed' forearm and back muscles is about the only baggage you'll take when making the transition. you will need to develop a whole new state of mind especially when the "screamin' barfies" hit!

Kerry can exonerate himself by simply signing the release for his 100+ page military record held confidential at the pentagon! Whats he hiding? Mark Twain once said, "He who tells the truth will has less to say."

typo edit- read: ...founded America...

GregW Climb the NA wall in early September, set up shop on the Mason-Dixon line and reinact the (proverbial) civil war: chop fixed lines to represent the importance of self-reliance and individuality that founded american and pure climbing style, then fly a "Homeland Security" banner.

i didnt know Spock was a nazi.

Skateboard grip tape has application in the climbing world. i've added some Jessop skate deck grip tape to my vipers last season when i severly damaged one of the grips. for me it works alot better than the stock grips. this year i going to add some between the leash attachment and head. i built a 'crack machine' with a coupla 2x6's, bolts, wingnuts (for on the fly crack width adjustments), then i laced the inside w/ grip tape. killer! the grip-tape gets my hands ready for tapeless desert and granite cracks.

unless you posses superpowers that allow your party to hike overhanging M7 in plastics or superbeefy leather, plan on watching every party that you have so desperately keep below you for the first half hike the frozen staircase around and above you. here's you here's them here's you The idea, iceclimber, is to be the first to the headwall (The Prize). You do not need a topo, the climb is very obivious.

I too would be opposed to Ice Festivals if all i were to do is ice crag. But, since i steer clear of populated ice crags it doesnt matter. To answer his question about which tool (?), i am merely suggesting that he go to the (early season) Bozeman i.f. and try out all the different tools. I am just letting him know that there is the option of "Test drive before you buy" in the ice climbing world. And the timing of the bozeman i.f. would allow to him to make a confident purchase before the lower 48 ice season is in full swing. My bad on the 'excellent ice' comment and name dropping, i was just quoting the webpage in attempt to get him excited.

...a book the Kerry camapign believes is the "the dirtiest of all dirty tricks ever played on a candidate for the presidency." But yet, the timing of F9/11 isnt a dirty trick, especially when the controversial film-maker sat front-n-center in the 'Presidential Box' next to Jimmy Carter during the DNC first night. hhhhmmmmmm!

Alpine Climber- The Plan Patiently hold off on purchasing tools till November 21-23. Sign up for the Bozeman Ice Festival. Ice Fest An excellent opportunity to test drive all tools by the major players (Black Diamond, Charlet Moser, Grivel, Climb High) Climb excellent ice At night swill away while watchin' slide-shows and hang with the pros (Barry Blanchard, Doug Chabot, Kitty Calhoun, Kim Csizmazia,Will Gadd, Stevie Haston, Steve House,Joe Josephson, Jack Roberts, Jay Smith,Jack Tackle, Mark Twight, Mark Wilford, etc.) Leave the Fest supercharged on the up-coming ice season Purchase the tools you were most stoked on. Now you have December through April to hack away. Go to the Canadian Rockies!

assuming your going to spend/need at least a month in the NW chasing after/waiting for the 'elusive' beast may i suggest an alternate worthy trip. Drive/Fly out to Colorado Stop #1 Ouray Ice Park: 'Countless' WI 4-5 lines. Gets you warmed up for the wild west. Head West to Utah Stop #2 Joes Valley Utah: Climb killer 1-3 pitch roadside ice in the morning and wip out the shoes for an afternoon bouldering session in the (guaranteed) sun. Usually a skiff of snow in the shade, and no crowds. Stop #3 MAPLE CANYON Utah: The proving grounds (also my favorite ice climbing haunt). Gape at the numerous unrepeated 200 foot single pitch WI 6-7+ lines. Best location anywhere for honing in on your thin/technical WI 4-4+. Advice: Bring a heafty set of stubbies and screamers and 60m ropes. Stop #4 Santaquin Canyon Utah: Best ice Utah has to offer, IMO. Ice is typically as blue as Elliots Left Hand, but unfortunately there are only two (albeit very worthy) lines that are WI 4-4+ the rest is 5 or greater or mixed. Head North Stop 5# Provo Canyon Utah: Stairway to Heaven and environs. Avoid the weekends. Stop #6 Ski Alta Head up into Wyoming Stop #7 (a vacation destination in itself) Cody Wyoming: The best ice offering in the lower 48, IMO. Now your warmed up for the show. Stop #8 The Canadian Rockies...Ice Mecca! IMO, make quick business with the ice in the lower 48, then spend the rest of your time (and future) ice climbing vacations in the canadian rockies!

let us know how stoked you get when the Ozz-Man shows the images comparing Bush with Hitler during War Pigs, like he did at Jones Beach, NY last week.

you come up with the strangest shit, dude. in my youth I damn near got assaulted by a c00ger up at the Sol Duc hotsprings. Horrible memory - a strungout naked w00t spread eagle on the hood of my car while reversing out of the lot.

"Visualize Tacoma"

Yeah, i myself am addicted to it. Its called TRUTH . Good shit if you open your mind.

Who here would trust jugging on a line fixed by a tripper?

curious, which direction do you think our Republic is heading? do you think if Kerry is elected, Republicans will have a hatred greater than the one for Clinton (read: democratic platform)? do you think if Bush is re-elected, Democratics will hate him (read: republican platform) just as much now or much greater four years from now? its all perpetual. We live in a dynamic system in which there exists a natural tendency toward chaos. Someone/group choosing not to socialize with another anymore due to political, religious, and/or social differences, is a step towards seperation, leading to disorganization, and ultimately chaos. Keep denying that there aren't any serious issues at hand, maybe that'll flaw the dynamic system.

I agree that the diff between organized sports and climbing is that climbing is self governed with "unenforced" ethics and rules and honesty in honoring them. What if some aussie doesnt like the idea of a japanese dude sending the world's hardest boulder problem on his terf and decides to gets in touch with BALCO pharmecuticals, juices up, and then fires that shit forward and backwards, then fires something harder, and no purist and keep up? then lets say, a coupla years go by, rad aussie climber fesses up about the use? what then, has climbing lost something special? Do his accomplishments stand and continually glorfied? In general, style is everything, there's good and there's bad!

Quote Source Quote Source Which party do you suppose will represent the Union and which party will represent the Confederates?