EWolfe

I have to agree with Pope on the issue of bolting next to cracks. There are plenty of climbs in the world, without bolting cracks. Hell, I sport climb, have bolted routes and boulder, but there is no reason for bolting cracks. I think that is a reasonable and just place to start. Pope said: All I can do is climb in good style, be a good example to younger climbers . Though we may disagree on what that means (as independent thinkers often do ), I whole heartedly agree with this sentiment.

Isn't that the same as the Sportclimbing Forum?

Of course he is. Les Schwab lives there. (whoops! there goes another rubber tree...)

Personally, I don't want to know the sick things you are doing with your GriGri

Burning Hummers will make you feel better, Beck - you should try it

Boy Howdy! The depth and cunning of that retort is only exceeded by it's evisceration

I remember a few years back when I was living in Bend, some climbers moved the rocks underneath one of the caves (the bouldering one) to make the landing better, and it raised quite a fuss. The rocks were put back to maintain authenticity of the cave environment.

Find your piratical name Iron Jack Rackham

Q: Of which concept shared by Jungian psychology and Northrop Frye's literary theory are pirates especially fond? A: ARRRchetype.

Enn - Pee - Arrrr!

An additional note: I am not talking about the cam being "tipped out" here, just in the halfway to 3/4 range. I have seen it a lot: people tend to think if the cam is not stuffed into the crack like a wedge it is not secure. I believe the opposite is true: if a SLCD is overcammed, it has more tendancy to "pop" out because the lobes are not loaded within acceptable range

And you thought summer ending was a bad thing...

I have a partner I have climbed with for years who invariably overcams his placements. He also sets them deep, making following a bitch. I tend to place shallow and undercam, making it easier for the follower, but he complains my placements are insecure. My question: Does overcamming and burying make you feel more secure? Or am I being too loose and shallow with my cam placements (granite/ NW)

That's beautiful, man - now take your meds

Bob, you should have put this in the new ROCK AND BADASS BOB CLIMBING FORUM

Banned is aid...

I thought the "bitch about bolts" forum was awesome - and I bolt, boulder, sport-climb and trad. BRING IT BACK!!!

Gotta love mail order brides:

ANSWER: I SAW YOU TOO - PLEASE LEAVE ME ALONE OR A RESTRAINING ORDER WILL FOLLOW

BAN-GLES

BAN-FF

8-ball, corner pocket

ban-anarama

They are doing some crazy body-jerk stuff in the kill scenes to add emphasis. It seemed like they got the killer cast together, then it just kinda didn't jell.

kept you regular? Too regular: "I'm gonna have to take you off belay for a couple of minutes. No, really, I MUST !!