Ursa_Eagle

CBS, any luck getting the car back?

Beck, don't listen to these fools. Thanx for the heads up on the new arrivals in the gear market!

It's not really THAT bad on your knees, it just sucks in the short term. My knees hurt for about two days, so I thought that it wasn't that bad, but then it started acting up a little after this past weekend. They should be fine soon enough. I just really enjoyed carrying an 8 lb pack instead of a 20-30 lb pack. If I were to do it in two days, I may stash gear at Cloud Cap so I could still carry just a daypack (with a 27.5 mile day and a 13 mile day.)

I prefer trekking poles on lower angle stuff because they provide good balance, and I know how to do a pole arrest. If it gets steeper, I use a traditional axe (75 cm) and a pole.

I did it in 14.5 hours 1.5 weeks ago. I got caught by darkness around Meadows and had to slow down because I had brought a really lightweight light; the wrong turn didn't help either. According to all the maps and info I have, it's over 40 miles. My altimeter clocked in 8,000 feet of gain and loss, but I think it's closer to 9,000 (it didn't catch all the high and low points.) There's water at Timberline and Cloud Cap. I made it from Timberline clockwise to Cloud Cap with 2 L of water, then filled up there for the 13 miles that I had left (no filtering or iodine needed, although I certainly had iodine with me.) The majority of it is in the trees, although there are some stretches above treeline. The trail is well graded, I don't remember any overly steep sections. I wore trail runners and didn't really get my feet wet on any of the stream crossings. If you're planning on doing it in a day, I'd recommend starting significantly earlier than 8:30 am, or at least bring a real headlamp (such as a Tikka or Aurora), rather than a keychain LED. And yeah, it's hell on your knees.

Josh, congrats! Here's to many happy years and happy s!

cluck, I just saw your photo looking south from the summit, and I'm jealous! I don't think I even took one looking south, because it was all smoke. Logan was all hazy, as was Elderado, and that was about as far as we could see!

here's cluck's photo with my route drawn in (yellow) More Sahale Routes

It's sad that some people take this stuff way too seriously (enough so to threaten your very well-being.) I'd say call the cops if it's appropriate, shrug it off if it's not (although it sounds like this isn't something to just shrug off), and keep on climbing! This person certainly doesn't speak for the rest of us here... I think I speak for the majority of the board when I say: Jon and Timm@y !

Although I don't think that's the only way it should be done, I'll have to agree with RobBob that it's prolly going to be the most effective. Even with great conservationism, a larger population will consume a larger amount of resources. (That's not to say that we as a species certainly couldn't do a little better than we are now.)

Thanx for the info! I need to go back when it's not so smokey, and I'd like to try the easier route next time so I know where it is (and therefore wouldn't have to worry about a rope.) Yeah, Cluck, I'm glad it's not just me who thought it was a little more than 4th class. Were you the ones that we ran into up on the arm?

schtinx, you're an idiot. you made an assumption about what "unwanted" means and treated it as fact.

catbirdseat's post just showed how rediculous destiny's post really was... catbirdseat

From what I've heard, he was glissading down Tuckerman's Ravine and forgot the cardinal rule of glissading (take your crampons off!) He caught a point, went tumbling, and when he finally stopped, his ice axe entered his abdomen from one side, and exited the other. He got up and walked down the trail, and made it all the way down to Pinkham Notch where the medics, ambulances, and a horde of people were waiting to see this guy walking down with an ice axe embedded in him. Turns out it went between his stomach and his abs, doing the least amount of damage possible.

Greg, I must be doing something right. And no, I ain't standing still. Why is it you think you're doing something "right" by pissing me off? You are showing that you have been spoonfed by the likes of James Carville, Terry McCauliffe, and a host of others who want to make you believe the soundbites and half-truth bullshit that the Democratic (and Green) Party wants you to swallow. You're not doing something 'right', you're proving to me how stupid and gullible people like you are; that's just sad. And Greg, I suppose you think that the first post in this thread is fine???

Yesterday my buddy and I climbed Sahale Peak, and I'm thinking that we didn't find the easy route up the pinnacle. We left the car at 10:00, and were at Sahale Camp at 12:45. After a 30 minute break, we made it up the glacier (no rope needed, just follow the boot track and probe the steps on the bridges with a trekking pole), exited at the upper right, then slogged on scree up to the east ridge (where we could first see the NF of Buckner.) We then went up the ridge, staying to the left and climbed some loose crap on the summit pinnacle that well into the 5th class range. I didn't particularly enjoy that part, as I knew I would be downclimbing it, and it was rather exposed (a fall would send you down a seemingly bottomless gulley on the north side of the east ridge.) We topped out around 2:30 or so, then headed back down to Sahale Camp at 3:30 where my pack was made lighter by drinking the beers I'd dragged up there (still somewhat cold!) Nothing quite like a good doppelbock at 7400 feet! Leaving Sahale camp a little after 4:00, we booked down the arm, stopping to take pics of a marmot that crawled onto my boot and licked my gaiter. Endless switchbacks below cascade pass led us back to the cars at 6:30. Unfortunately, the smoke didn't clear up in the afternoon as it had the previous two days (at least it seemd that way on Snowking.) Although we could see a few things from up there (Elderado, Forbidden, Boston, Logan, Goode, Buckner, Booker), everthing else was cloaked by the smoke, particularly to the south. Overall, a great day though! My question is, where is the 3rd or 4th class route up the pinnacle that people talk about? We were supposed to traversed around to the north somehow or possibly go up the south ridge? Downclimbing the rock that we had climbed was definately unnerving, and if I were to go up that way again, I'd bring a short, light rope so I could rap.

so did the axe come out by itself or did he pull it out?

is that like saying "aircraft-grade aluminum" when they're trying to make 7075 sound exotic and strong?

I can't necessarily tell you where's good, but you'll prolly want to avoid Cascade Pass... lots of smoke there right now.

Mallrats is hilarious, I'd suggest renting it tonight. It's prolly their most "mainstream" and PC movie (mind you, that doesn't mean it's very PC at all), but hilarious nonetheless. "YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE IS NO EASTER BUNNY!! THAT OVER THERE'S JUST A GUY IN A SUIT!"

you know it then! and I can only assume that you've seen Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, and Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, right? (you gotta watch all five movies of the Jersey Trilogy)

you people don't recognize quotes from the movie that started the "Jersey Trilogy"?? Going to Red Bank to see the Quik Stop would be the only reason I'd want to go to Jersey!

Damn you, Anna! I wanna see it again! I unfortunately don't have a home library. "Well, did he make it?" "His balls were resting comfortably on his lips"

"My girlfriend sucked 37 dicks!" "In a row?"

Eh, good enough reasoning for me. But the important question is, how fast do they grow back? We need to find the happy equilibrium between killing them off with and have them grow back...