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RobBob- contrary to current belief I don't get offended over everything. Women are not men...thank goodness. Let the battle rage on!

b/c women let them think they are Now spank me!

Muffy- having an opinion does not equal offended. For most things, i am just apathetic. You're posts are cute and all but your wild assumption about me isn't.

Hey I was one of the parents scrambling I'm not even going to touch the subject of teacher salaries. It's a sore subject for me. I'm not a huge locke fan...please don't read that into my question. What i'm wondering is why can he disregard one initiative and be forced to accept another. We have no state income tax and thus I'm not opposed to licensing fees or property taxes. Our state budget is hosed. Wouldn't it be helpful to find a way to increase revenue? Why not ignore the initiative that desimated the budget and thus increase the state revenue? Ignore both of them fine. I guess what I'm really asking is how the gov. can ignore any initiative passed by the voters? What's the point of the initiative process then?

a) allison-Thanks for the warning. Problem is that I don't care if I get flamed for that one. Guess I'll have to suck it up and take it. (anyone got a fire-extinguisher handy?) Maybe I did come across more righteous than i meant to...oops! Guess we all have our petpeeve issues. b) Muffy- believe me I wasn't looking to be offended. I was offended after reading the remark. c) Trask-Lets see some stats. I'm not going to argue that the prison system has different demographics than society at as a whole. We could debate the reason for that. What percentage of the african-american population lives in poverty? I know it's higher than caucasions but I don't think it's the majority. As for the best friend analogy...the point i was trying to make is that it's not just one example. My view is based on experience w/a larger group than one. Hey my neighbor is a b!tch but that doesn't mean she does crack. (maybe she'd be nicer if she did!) d) pardon all those typos and punctuation errors. i haven't had my coffee yet!

I love the U-scan at QFC. I don't have to make pleasant chit-chat w/the cashier or wait in the endless lines! Never had a problem w/it.

But my real question is this: Gov. Locke wants to ignore the initiative that requires pay raises for teachers in order to balance his budget. Why can't he choose to disregard Eyman's initiative instead? Dumb question i'm sure but i'm really curious.

I feel like i should respond to some of the confusion my comment caused ChrisT, I think it's great your algebra teacher took you guys to yosemite! At least some influential adult exposed you to it! Even camping in truckee counts as a start for loving the outdoors mtns or not! RobBob you have a point. I can't say that I'm truly offended by trasks b/c his comments don't affect me directly. It's a personally belief that when someone says something like that it should be called out. trask-it's a shame you can't see that the topic of the thread was a worthy discussion point. I can respect and intellectual difference of opinions but anytime someone reduces the argument to name-calling and insults based on some preconceived notion I'm going to call B.S. Fine you disagree but isn't there a better way for you to express that. Of my friends, acquaintenances, colleauges and neighbors who are black , non of them partakes in crack and none of them climb. If you're going to toss out a glaring offensive comment, don't act distraught when someone points it. Now you can kiss my lilly white arse. If you feel the need to insult me further take it to PM

chica checkin in!

my my my...it must be past trask's nap time.

1) Trask you're comments are so stunningly offensive I can't believe you posted them publicly 2) only 3) there can't be a simple answer to this question. A great topic to be sure. My guess is that has something to do with how a person is raised. My love of the moutains stems from my time w/my parents as a child. In a sense, what I'm saying is that it's passed on from generation to generation. If you're not exposed to it as a child there may be less of chance that you'll find it as an adult. I agree that the demographics of the PNW probably doesn't help the local numbers of minority climbers either!

I'd love to see what the ladies out there use. I have a horrible time w/boots. Any recommendations from the girls or any of you who are just knowledgeable gear junkies?

and i wish the creeps who stole all my stuff would at least bring back my CDs and maps! Can you tell that i'm bitter?

So i think what i'm getting from this is that a GPS is a nice addition but not a mandatory item? I'm pretty handy w/my compass and a good map. GT maps suck for anything off the beaten path.

My 7yr old son was crushed when we told him that even if he did talk us into climbing Mt. Rainier this summer he wouldn't be the youngest person to do it. He's turning into such a good hiker/backpacker/climber but he's not that good yet!

Chair was good climbing yesterday but I wouldn't go near that place on Saturday! There were quite a few people yesterday. Tomorrow will be a mad house!

I'm sure this has been rehashed many times but lets talk about navigation boys and girls! GPS or no GPS? If yes which one do you have? I'm inherently cheap and have balked at dropping the coin for GPS. I'm looking forward to a couple of extended trips this year the topic has come up: is it wort the money. I've always relied on my brain and my trusty compass. (one of the few valuable things that i learned in girl scouts) However i have to admit to straying off course this summer in the Rockies. We've got one ski trip planned and some time off for extended backpacking this summer.

Lets get back to what's really important mid-week climbing. Dot-com jobs should be thought of as gateway gigs. Gateway to more free time. All kidding aside, I'm surprised at how many of my friends who were bitten by the dot-com snake found new jobs relatively quickly. We won't discuss salaries...

i think trask watches too much TV

crust sucks (then again i think snowboarding suck )

Col. S. pardon my hostility. I wasn't planning on writing a trip report for a trip that never panned out. Figured i'd toss out some observations based on my recent presence in the area. We were a little slow in getting up and out the door this morning (too much ) so we didn't get up the route very far. I had to get back down the house (damn work!) Made it more of an exploratory trip in prep for an attempt tomorrow. What we did see was crusty stuff on top of softer snow. I wouldn't say the conditions are ideal for climbing or skiing. Just my opinion. I definitely wouldn't want to ski the crud and climbing it isn't ideal but i'll do it.

it's all a matter of opinion. perhaps i shouldn't have been so glib in my description. I should've stopped at crusty. soooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrry. If you want a detailed report you'll have to wait until i'm in the mood to type that much. I was just giving my general impressions. shoot!

Even in these conditions, Guye has been pretty fun. In fact, I think it's been a better climb lately than it was last fall w/o any snow. We climbed the west side south section last weekend...pretty decent given the weather we've been having. Can't wait until there's more snow! I heard a few folks out there on New Years Eve in the moonlight. Probably a better way to spend it than the hang over I earned!

It's crusty, icy and nasty as of this morning. Hopefully it will get warm enough today to soften things up. Not worth it imho. Still a fair bit of snow.

Gotta agree w/the Bellingham comments. Great community. Good sea kayaking up that way and you're just a stone's throw from the great paddling in BC.